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Police mistook hibiscus plants for marijuana, arrested Buffalo Township couple, suit claims
Trib Live ^ | November 16, 2017 | MATTHEW MEDSGER

Posted on 11/17/2017 4:18:37 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia

A Buffalo Township couple is suing the township police and the Nationwide Insurance Co. after, their lawsuit says, hibiscus plants growing in their backyard were mistaken for marijuana plants.

In a lawsuit, Edward Cramer, 69, and his wife, Audrey Cramer, 66, claim that Buffalo Township police handcuffed them both and made them sit in the back of a police car for hours last month as police ransacked their house looking for marijuana.

But rather than running a pot-growing operation, the Cramers say they grow flowering hibiscus in their backyard.

The Cramers were not charged.

They filed a civil lawsuit Thursday in Butler County Court against Nationwide Mutual Insurance Co., Nationwide agent Jonathan Yeamans, Buffalo Township and three of its police officers.

Among the allegations are use of excessive force, false arrest, false imprisonment, intentional infliction of emotional distress and invasion of privacy.

(Excerpt) Read more at triblive.com ...


TOPICS: Agriculture; Local News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; marijuana; pennsylvania; police; wod
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Some stupid busybody and a whole bunch of stupid cops...........................


41 posted on 11/17/2017 6:29:20 AM PST by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: knarf
I'm pretty sure Laz'd smoke 'em

N.A.h....

42 posted on 11/17/2017 6:30:13 AM PST by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

That couple hit the JACK-POT of LAWSUITS because some LAW SUIT didn’t know JACK about marijuana!............


43 posted on 11/17/2017 6:33:26 AM PST by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Years ago in a small town near me a high school girl was arrested by a newbie cop for: a huge bale of marijuana in the bed of her truck; arrested and cuffed and put into jail. It turned out that bale of marijuana was alfalfa she was bringing home for her horse. The cop was from some big city. Subsequently fired.


44 posted on 11/17/2017 6:54:29 AM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~)
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To: Fightin Whitey

More like high biscuits.


45 posted on 11/17/2017 6:55:46 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Any photos of the plants involved?


46 posted on 11/17/2017 7:04:37 AM PST by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
The suit says that Sneddon claimed to have expertise in identifying marijuana.

It takes no effort to imagine hearing him practicing his testilying: "Based on my years of training and experience..."

47 posted on 11/17/2017 7:05:44 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I just sold 200 grams of dried hibiscus flowers to the cartel. When they read this I’m dead.


48 posted on 11/17/2017 7:06:44 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
On Oct. 26, Nationwide sent the Cramers a policy notification letter claiming to have found marijuana growth on the property. The letter stated that if they failed to remove the marijuana plants, Nationwide would cancel their insurance policy.

There's the slam dunk for recovery from Nationwide.

49 posted on 11/17/2017 7:06:57 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

“Hmmm ... a rose bush, and spearmint. Very suspicious.” — Buffalo Township PD, probably


50 posted on 11/17/2017 7:08:14 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: PAR35

The E&O carrier for the insurance adjuster and the police will not be happy.

Wonder why liability insurance rates are high?


51 posted on 11/17/2017 7:09:24 AM PST by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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To: Clay Moore
The Texas Star Hibiscus leaf looks amazingly similar to weed.

Relevance?

52 posted on 11/17/2017 7:12:05 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

They forget to claim loss of consortium?


53 posted on 11/17/2017 7:13:45 AM PST by shotgun
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Punkish, moronic cops. Yeah, hibiscus looks just like pot. What coptards.


54 posted on 11/17/2017 7:31:14 AM PST by WKUHilltopper (WKU 2016 Boca Raton Bowl Champions)
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To: moovova

That and there’s not the slightest resemblance between the leaves.

These cops should be prosecuted and stripped of their pensions.

L


55 posted on 11/17/2017 7:32:52 AM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: Clay Moore
The Texas Star Hibiscus leaf looks amazingly similar to weed.

Yes. Without the flower or the flower being cropped out of police "evidence" photos, there are similarities. If one has fewer than a dozen functioning brain cells. And since the suit claims the photos were shot to exclude any flowers, I'd say far fewer than a dozen. Or malicious intent.

I wonder what Mr. Cramer said to the insurance adjuster to p!$$ him off so much?


56 posted on 11/17/2017 7:39:40 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Ban pre-shredded cheese now! Make America grate again.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
That gave me pause.

You feet and hands appear normal to me.
57 posted on 11/17/2017 7:44:01 AM PST by LanaTurnerOverdrive ("I've done things in my life I'm not proud of. And the things I am proud of are disgusting.")
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I’m not a plant guy. I would have pause to see the TS Hibiscus leaf and not do a double take.

https://www.google.com/search?q=texas+star+hibiscus+leaf&tbm=isch&source=iu&pf=m&ictx=1&fir=KrM-4NgbW-aWrM%253A%252CGMu9GpT99DXEGM%252C_&usg=__tdDhPhw11R428TQC3FlJbSEQaL8%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiQ6oX4-cXXAhXJw1QKHZbNBdcQ9QEILDAB#imgrc=KrM-4NgbW-aWrM:


58 posted on 11/17/2017 7:48:38 AM PST by Clay Moore (MAGA)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
The suit says that Sneddon claimed to have expertise in identifying marijuana.

The same kind of expertise that allows cops to testify to a broad range of BS in court.

59 posted on 11/17/2017 7:50:45 AM PST by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: Mr.Unique

Suggested Donald Trump style nickname for Sneddon,

“Pitty-Pat” Sneddon


60 posted on 11/17/2017 7:55:28 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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