Posted on 11/05/2017 3:15:14 PM PST by Antoninus
You have no freaking clue. None whatsoever.
I am living in a rural valley - very rural - no LE around - in SW OR. My DH is a firefighter and I hear dispatch 24/7 and I also know what goes on around my own area, and you have not a freaking clue.
Not. One. Freaking. Clue.
Today one guy was shot and the wait until fire and medics could see him - had to be scene safe - was about 40 minutes until LE arrived.
Slightly better is the argument that legalizing the drug will result in fewer individuals in prison for usage.
Oh. So druggies are not going to burgle or rob anymore, once the stuff is legalized, and the price goes through the roof? Gee, I wonder how they’ll pay for it? DUH!
THANK you!
Do you believe the federal government has the right to tell you what you may & may not consume?
If yes, show me where in the Constitution that right is mentioned.
Opium grows in the backyard, too. Heroin should be legal.
Pills are legal you say? Go to the 7-11 and get some. Oh wait, you cannot legally buy them without a prescription.
Try again.
“If you define freedom by the ability to get yourself stoned legally, you’ve completely missed the point. You’re not free. You’re a slave to the endorphin rush. “
Wow, what a load of BS. You got the logical fallacy disease in a bad way lol.
Individual liberty is about being FREE. It’s about being free to decide for yourself how you want to live you life, period. If that means you want to drink 20 cups of coffee a day & you can afford it, have at it. Same with cannabis.
You pro-nanny-staters are in the wrong forum, IMO.
I can destroy any arguments that legalizing mj is a good thing.
Idiots. They smoke too much dope and just want to be able to grow it and make tons of $$.
LE has busted some growers here because they’re shipping to other states. I forgot to mention in my long comment above that over the CA border in Siskyou county that Russian, Bulgarian, and of course MX cartels, and Hmongs already there doing it a few years ago, bought huge tracts of land for mj growing. Once it was clear CA was going down the drain into legal mj, these tracts were bought. Of course, as in OR, most grow ops are not licensed so they’re still illegal. Freepers in some rural CA counties have commented and they have the same exact experiences as I’ve described.
Of course they destroy the environment with water theft, toxic chemicals and these gangs often use slave labor on their “farms”.
It’s all the eeeevil government’s fault, somehow...
Absolutely horrific.
Thanks for the link. Neither alcohol nor pot HAS to turn a lot of society into morons. But it sounds like both sometimes do.
Many people learn to use alcohol with caution and without becoming habituated to it or over use, especially people of European ethnicity. Native Americans, not. But marijuana is quite different, more intense, and much easier to become habituated to it. Modern mj is bred with such high THC content that there is really no way to use it just to get a small buzz, as people can do with 1 beer or 1 glass of wine.
Not comparable. and I say this as a teenage alcoholic and then heavy drug user for about 2 to 3 years. Thankfully - I stopped all drug and alcohol use at age 20.
Im sure you are right re chronic getting high. But there are plenty of alcoholics who imbibe huge quantities of alcohol and get plastered daily too. I have zero desire to get high, since high school too basically. CBD oil over a long period of time can knock away chronic unexplained pain (for me, migraines), though. It helps. Im glad it is legal. I make my own combo of 3:1 so it is just right for me.
I agree, alcohol can be and is totally misused, an old friend has been on and off the wagon for years and we all hope she can stay off “this time”.
But that does not justify legalizing a dangerous drug.
The actual medicinal uses for mj should be researched and produced; here in OR “medical marijuana” is a total joke, the state pays for it (!!!!!!) and everyone who has a “card” just smokes it to get high aka stupid. I’m glad that works for you. Ganja ie mj is used in Ayurvedic medicine but either externally, or in herbal formulas that would not have any intoxicating effect, but it’s mostly all external use. I have never used it in my herb work as it’s illegal and I don’t want to experiment with something that I do not know much about anyway. Some of the classic Ayurvedic herb formulas are very complex.
Cool that you are into herbs. Ever tried anything for adhd control in kids, with success? Let me know. Looking for something to try soon.
We had WONDERFUL results with the Ayurvedic herb bacopa for abject fear. Like social fear that didnt allow a child to function in public or school. A couple drops in milk a few times a day, over a good year or so, and we keep it up. It has a nickname for us: brave drops.
“Modern mj is bred with such high THC content that there is really no way to use it just to get a small buzz, as people can do with 1 beer or 1 glass of wine.”
The notion that one cannot use small amounts of cannabis is pure fantasy.You can very easily use small amounts of cannabis to relax after a long day just as you can with beer or wine.
Yes, cannabis is more potent today than it used to be & I thank God for this every day. Because cannabis is more potent today one doesn’t need to use as much to achieve the desired effect/outcome. As a medical marijuana patient here in the state of Florida I can personally attest to this.
So is abortion, same sex marriage, and every other liberal idea.
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