Posted on 10/15/2017 7:12:10 AM PDT by Elderberry
It’s all table pounding.
The fools on this issue do not realize that in order for these motorcycle scum to win in a civil trial, and collect any damages, they would have to convince all the local taxpayers on a jury (or at least an overwhelming majority) that they, the jurors, should raise their own taxes, and the taxes of their friends, neighbors, co-workers, etc, to pay free money to a bunch of drug dealing motorcycle scum.
You could get better betting odds on Frances The Talking Mule winning the Kentucky Derby next year than on this deal!
I’m sorry, I guess I’m behind here. I’ve missed the convictions in a court of law of any of these people.
Wow. So you're saying that these people have a vested interest in the outcome of the trials? How can they possibly be "impartial" jurors?
...to pay free money to a bunch of drug dealing motorcycle scum.
Obviously you have no preconceived opinions here. So you consider jury awards for violations against people "free money" based on your personal judgments of them?
There is no such required assumption outside the court system... and these scum are guilty as sin... and will spend decades in prison due to their guilt.
You don't have any problem with these drug-dealing murderers going to prison, do you?
No, had you not tried to twist my words, you would realize that no jury is going to tax itself to pay free money to drug dealing motorcycle scum, such as these drug dealing motorcycle scum.
Would you?
Anyone who thinks they would is a fool, or a drug dealing motorcycle scum. I wonder which some of the posters here are?
Not if they committed felonies. And there are probably a dozen or so who did. Certainly not 200. And I guess I missed the charges of drug distribution. Who is charged with that in these cases?
I didn't twist anything, those were your words and you've repeated the here. If that is a consideration then they are by definition not "impartial". That is good reason to move the trials and if the officials of WACO and McClennan county did in fact violate defendants rights, those taxpayers should damn well pay for the actions of people they voted for.
Strongly suggest u review Texas statutes dealing with Criminal Street Gangs and Conspiracy before u announce any of them innocent of any felony
Where do think you would find ANY jury that would award of these scum ANYTHING other than decades in prison?
Their purpose here is propaganda to influence public opinion portraying government as evil and outlaws as victims.
Any gang member there that day committed multiple felonies.
They are really Bill and Hillary?!?!?!
Twould gangs had a gunfight and dudes died and you don’t think they are guilty of felonies?
LOL!
Tell your buddies to keep their gunfights out of Waco if they don’t want to go to trial in Waco ...
“And I guess I missed the charges of drug distribution. Who is charged with that in these cases? “
Heavily discussed by me in an earlier thread. BTW, those are federal chargers!
Maybe any jury who is charged with considering the facts, and not their own wallets as you suggested. I don't know what kind of lawyer you are, but I don't blame you for being a little embarrassed by what you suggested out loud here about the jury.
You can call them scum all you want, and some might well be, but most are just motorcyclists. In either case they are entitled to a PRESUPTION of innocence and their day in court. And a right to a speedy trial (you may recall that from law school if you weren't absent that day). I question your fitness for the bar, you seem as unhinged as your buddy here who I will just ignore. As to this date, not one "scum" has been convicted, the Texas government look to be the bigger "scum" so far and it has been two years plus. Good thing the "good citizens" of Waco have bottomless pockets to drag this out because most of the defendants don't and that is how corrupt governments beat people into submission.
So I take that back. Since you are good with that kind of corrupt bullshit, I know exactly what kind of lawyer you are.
Again you get a Thanks for the updates.
More table pounding in defense of very guilty motorcycle club drug dealing scum.
Here is the bottom line to your legal foolishness. A large group of Criminal Street Gang conspirators, (as defined by Texas statute) comes into town and murdered some people. You want the citizens of that town to pay some sort of monetary damages to those murderers because you believe their rights were violated, all because you believe every incredulous internet rumor and wild, legally baseless defense lawyer claim about the case.
What amazes me the most is how you don’t really have any idea of how little you know about how the law really works. Like many jailhouse lawyers, you love to throw around legal phrases with no understanding of their meaning.
But most like you at least have a core understanding of their lack of legal understanding.
You, on the other hand, know nothing, and believe you know it all.
Knew a fellow like you who once argued his 40 in a 25 speeding ticket in a Village Magistrate’s Court. Got himself off with 5 years, was out in 3 with good behavior. :)
Ahhhh - that explains his "your pedophile friends" (or some such crap) comment. Maybe someone revved up a Harley near him when he was young and he messed himself - felt defiled.
Thanks
Who isn’t innocent? After all this time, questionable rulings by the “judge” against the defense, no real sense of who did or didn’t do what (bikers/LEO/Feds). This stinks like WACO/Ruby Ridge/Bundy and family type government/Police bollix/overreach.
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