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There is that, yes. But it's just to the right of his head and to the left of guy in the red shirt cap (which is also gray). I can't vouch for the video, but it is odd.
Here's (in red circle) where you should be looking at approx 27 seconds in:
Posted on 10/05/2017 11:12:23 AM PDT by Trump_vs_Evil_Witch
CALLERS TO MY RADIO SHOW WHO WERE SHOT AT THAT NITE SAY THERE WERE MULTIPLE SHOOTERS
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I think shooter ordered two meals, one to consume and the second to refrigerate for later.
The yakky lady predicting doom *was* escorted away by security, so should be already “tracked down” as video man recommended.
I quit listening to the rest of the rabbit trails after that.
People want there to be a conspiracy. I myself don’t get it. Sure ask questions but at this point we’re seeing people actively seeking alternative explanations. Whatever the narrative is, it’s unacceptable. We’re seeing some sort of cultural phenomenon here.
Remember how people who didn’t believe 9/11 were mocked? Those theories popped up immediately. Is it that there was a real outside enemy to be identified there as opposed to some unknown accountant?
i see a guy comforting a woman.
So now if your story isn’t given proper attention that too must be the result of a conspiracy?
Why is the FBI recruiting, grooming, and arming people to carry out terrorist attacks on American citizens, and then allowing many of these attacks to be carried out? Most of these “stings” create situations that wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for the FBI setting them up. The FBI is incompetent and extremely irresponsible at best, and outright evil at worst. The only way we can find out is with an aggressive independent investigation. All conservatives and republicans need to change the narrative by demanding this be done in response to the Las Vegas shooting.
I suspect the reason they are having so much trouble filling in the gaps with the Vegas shooter is because many of the links were government informants like they were in the Garland, Texas shooting. The FBI can't be trusted. They are likely creating these situations and intentionally allowing them to be carried out in an attempt to change public opinion on our second amendment because that's the only way they can disarm.
Think about this. One person calls into a radio show. Do we even know if she was there? Is it verified?
Do we even know if she was there? Is it verified?
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At this time about as verified as there were multiple shooters.
Supporting the presumption of Islamic jihadism is a list below of 93 deadly Islamic terror attacks made on American soil since 1972 (unformatted):
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/american-attacks.aspx
Date Country City Killed Injured Description
2017.05.19 USA Tampa, FL 2 0 A recent convert shoots two people to death for disrespecting Islam.
2017.04.18 USA Fresno, CA 3 0 Three men are gunned down at random by a convert to Islam yelling praises to Allah.
2017.01.31 USA Denver, CO 1 0 A pastor working as a security guard is shot to death at a transit office by a ‘radicalized’ Muslim.
2017.01.06 USA Fort Lauderdale, FL 5 6 A convert to Islam guns down five innocents in the baggage claim area of an airport.
2016.11.28 USA Columbus, OH 0 11 A Muslim immigrant goes on a stabbing rampage after expressing his desire to kill infidels.
2016.09.17 USA St. Cloud, MN 0 8 A former refugee goes on a stabbing spree at a shopping mall while speaking of Allah and asking potential victims if they are Muslim.
2016.09.17 USA NYC, NY 0 31 A former asylum seeker plants several explosives, one of which injures twenty-nine innocents. He also shot two policemen two days later.
2016.08.20 USA Roanoke, VA 0 2 A man and woman are stabbed maliciously by a ‘radicalized’ man yelling praises to Allah.
2016.06.13 USA Orlando, FL 49 53 An Islamic extremist massacres forty-nine people at a gay nightclub.
2016.02.11 USA Columbus, OH 0 4 Four people at a Christian-owned restaurant with an Israeli flag are slashed by a Muslim wielding a machete yelling ‘Allah Akbar’…
2016.01.07 USA Philadelphia, PA 0 1 A man shoots a police officer three times ‘in the name of Islam’.
2015.12.02 USA San Bernardino, CA 14 17 A ‘very religious’ Muslim shoots up a Christmas party with his wife, leaving fourteen dead.
2015.11.04 USA Merced, CA 0 4 A student vowing to behead and ‘praise Allah’ stabs four others on campus.
2015.07.16 USA Chattanooga, TN 5 2 A ‘devout Muslim’ stages a suicide attack on a recruiting center at a strip mall and a naval center which leaves five dead.
2015.05.03 USA Garland, TX 0 1 Two Muslims stage a suicide assault on a conference critical of Islam.
2015.02.14 USA Detroit, MI 0 2 Two men are stabbed by a Muslim who first verified that they were unbelievers.
2014.12.18 USA Morganton, NC 1 A convert to Islam shoots an elderly man three times in the head after watching ISIS videos.
2014.10.23 USA NYC, NY 0 5 Four rookie cops and a female bystander are assaulted with an axe by a Muslim who says he is acting in the cause of Allah.
2014.09.25 USA Moore, OK 1 1 A Sharia advocate beheads a woman after calling for Islamic terror and posting an Islamist beheading photo.
2014.06.25 USA West Orange, NJ 1 0 A 19-year-old college student is shot to death ‘in revenge’ for Muslim deaths overseas.
2014.06.01 USA Seattle, WA 2 0 Two homosexuals are murdered by an Islamic extremist.
2014.04.27 USA Skyway, WA 1 0 A 30-year-old man is murdered by a Muslim fanatic.
2014.03.06 USA Port Bolivar, TX 2 0 A Muslim man shoots his lesbian daughter and her lover to death and leaves a copy of the Quran open to a page condemning homosexuality.
2013.08.04 USA Richmond, CA 1 0 A convert “on a mission from Allah” stabs a store clerk to death.
2013.04.19 USA Boston, MA 1 1 Jihadists gun down a university police officer sitting in his car.
2013.04.15 USA Boston, MA 3 264 Foreign-born Muslims describing themselves as ‘very religious’ detonate two bombs packed with ball bearings at the Boston Marathon, killing three people and causing several more to lose limbs.
2013.03.24 USA Ashtabula, OH 1 0 A Muslim convert walks into a church service with a Quran and guns down his Christian father while praising Allah.
2013.03.14 USA Vancouver, WA 0 2 Two people suffer knife injuries when a Muslim convert attempts to stab a non-Muslim to death over religious views outside a coffee shop.
2013.02.07 USA Buena Vista, NJ 2 0 A Muslim targets and beheads two Christian Coptic immigrants.
2012.11.12 USA Houston, TX 1 0 A 28-year-old American man is shot to death by a conservative Muslim over an alleged role in converting a woman to Christianity.
2012.06.15 USA Mission, TX 0 3 A man shoots his daughter, her boyfriend and her mother for letting the girl date a non-Muslim.
2012.01.15 USA Houston, TX 1 0 A 30-year-old Christian convert is shot to death by a devout Muslim for helping to convert his daughter.
2011.09.11 USA Waltham, MA 3 0 Three Jewish men have their throats slashed by Muslim terrorists.
2011.04.30 USA Warren, MI 1 0 A 20-year-old woman is shot in the head by her stepfather for not adhering to Islamic practices.
2010.04.14 USA Marquette Park, IL 5 2 After quarrelling with his wife over Islamic dress, a Muslim convert shoots his family members to ‘take them back to Allah’ and out of the ‘world of sinners’.
2009.12.04 USA Binghamton, NY 1 0 A non-Muslim Islamic studies professor is stabbed to death by a Muslim grad student in revenge for ‘persecuted’ Muslims.
2009.11.05 USA Ft. Hood, TX 13 31 A Muslim psychiatrist guns down thirteen unarmed soldiers while yelling praises to Allah.
2009.11.02 USA Glendale, AZ 1 1 A woman dies from injuries suffered when her father runs her down with a car for being too ‘Westernized.’ (10-20-09)
2009.06.01 USA Little Rock, AR 1 1 A Muslim shoots a local soldier to death inside a recruiting center explicitly in the name of Allah.
2009.04.12 USA Phoenix, AZ 2 0 A man shoots his brother-in-law and another man to death after finding out that they visited a strip club, in contradiction to Islamic values.
2009.02.12 USA Buffalo, NY 1 0 The founder of a Muslim TV station beheads his wife in the hallway for seeking a divorce.
2008.07.06 USA Jonesboro, GA 1 0 A devout Muslim strangles his 25-year-old daughter in an honor killing.
2008.01.01 USA Irving, TX 2 0 A Muslim immigrant shoots his two daughters to death on concerns about their ‘Western’ lifestyle.
2007.02.20 USA Nashville, TN 0 1 A Muslim cab driver runs over a Christian after arguing about religion. The young man’s ankle and hip are broken by the vehicle.
2006.07.28 USA Seattle, WA 1 5 An ‘angry’ Muslim-American uses a young girl as hostage to enter a local Jewish center, where he shoots six women, one of whom dies.
2006.06.25 USA Denver, CO 1 5 Saying that it was ‘Allah’s choice’, a Muslim shoots four of his co-workers and a police officer.
2006.06.16 USA Baltimore, MD 1 0 A 62-year-old Jewish moviegoer is shot to death by a Muslim medical student in an unprovoked terror attack.
2006.03.03 USA Chapel Hill, NC 0 9 Calling it the will of Allah, an Iranian immigrant plows his SUV into a crowd of students as ‘retribution’ for foreign policy overseas.
2004.04.15 USA Scottsville, NY 1 2 In an honor killing, a Muslim father kills his wife and attacks his two daughters with a knife and hammer because he feared that they had been sexually molested.
2003.08.06 USA Houston, TX 1 0 After undergoing a ‘religious revival’, a Saudi college student slashes the throat of a Jewish student with a 4” butterfly knife, nearly decapitating the young man.
2002.10.22 USA Aspen Hill, MD 1 0 A bus driver is killed by Muslim snipers.
2002.10.14 USA Arlington, VA 1 0 A woman is killed by Muslim snipers in a Home Depot parking lot.
2002.10.11 USA Fredericksburg, VA 1 0 Another man is killed by Muslim snipers while pumping gas.
2002.10.09 USA Manassas, VA 1 1 A man is killed by Muslim snipers while pumping gas two days after a 13-year-old is wounded by the same team.
2002.10.03 USA Montgomery County, MD 5 0 Muslim snipers kill three men and two women in separate attacks over a 15-hour period.
2002.10.02 USA Wheaton, MD 1 0 Muslim snipers gun down a program analyst in a store parking lot.
2002.09.23 USA Baton Rouge, LA 1 0 A Korean mother is shot in the back by Muslim snipers.
2002.09.21 USA Montgomery, AL 1 1 Muslim snipers shoot two women, killing one.
2002.09.21 USA Atlanta, GA 1 0 Muslim terrorists gun down an employee at a liquor store.
2002.07.04 USA Los Angeles, CA 2 0 Muslim man pulls out a gun at the counter of an Israeli airline and kills two people.
2002.05.27 USA Denton, TX 1 0 Muslim snipers kill a man as he works in his yard.
2002.03.19 USA Tuscon, AZ 1 0 A 60-year-old man is gunned down by Muslim snipers on a golf course.
2002.01.06 USA Tampa, FL 0 0 Fifteen year-old flies plane into an office building in Tampa. Suicide note reveals his admiration for Osama Bin Laden and desire to commit a terrorist attack.
2001.09.11 USA New York, NY 2752 251 Islamic hijackers steer two planes packed with fuel and passengers into the World Trade Center, killing hundreds on impact and eventually killing thousands when the towers collapsed. At least 200 are seriously injured.
2001.09.11 USA Washington, DC 184 53 Nearly 200 people are killed when Islamic hijackers steer a plane full of people into the Pentagon.
2001.09.11 USA Shanksville, PA 40 0 Forty passengers are killed after Islamic radicals hijack the plane in an attempt to steer it into the U.S. Capitol building.
2000.03.17 USA Atlanta, GA 1 1 A local imam and Muslim spiritual leader guns down a deputy sheriff and injures his partner.
1997.04.03 USA Lompoc, CA 1 0 A prison guard is stabbed to death by a radical Muslim.
1997.03.23 USA New York, NY 1 6 A Palestinian leaves an anti-Jewish suicide note behind and travels to the top of the Empire State building where he shoot seven people in a Fedayeen attack.
1994.03.01 USA Brooklyn, NY 1 0 A Muslim gunman targets a van packed with Jewish boys, killing a 16-year-old.
1993.02.26 USA New York, NY 6 1040 Islamic terrorists detonate a massive truck bomb under the World Trade Center, killing six people and injuring over 1,000 in an effort to collapse the towers.
1993.01.25 USA Langley, VA 2 3 A Pakistani with Mujahideen ties guns down two CIA agents outside of the headquarters.
1990.11.05 USA New York City, NY 1 0 An Israeli rabbi is shot to death by a Muslim attacker at a hotel.
1990.01.31 USA Tuscon, AZ 1 0 A Sunni cleric is assassinated in front of a Tuscon mosque after declaring that two verses of the Qur’an were invalid.
1989.11.06 USA St. Louis, MO 1 0 A 17-year-old girl is stabbed to death by her parents for bringing ‘dishonor’ to their family by dating an ‘infidel’ African-American.
1980.08.31 USA Savou, IL 2 0 An Iranian student guns down his next-door neighbors, a husband and wife.
1980.07.22 USA Bethesda, MD 1 0 A political dissident is shot and killed in front of his home by an Iranian agent who was an American convert to Islam.
1977.03.09 USA Washington, DC 1 1 Hanifi Muslims storm three buildings including a B’nai B’rith to hold 134 people hostage. At least two innocents were shot and one died.
1974.04.16 USA Ingleside, CA 1 0 A man is killed while helping a friend move by Nation of Islam terrorists.
1974.04.01 USA Oakland, CA 1 1 A Nation of Islam terrorist shoots at two Salvation Army members, killing a man and injuring a woman.
1974.01.24 USA Oakland, CA 4 1 Five vicious shooting attacks by Nation of Islam terrorists leave three people dead and one paralyzed for life. Three of the victims were women.
1973.12.24 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 A man is kidnapped, tortured and decapitated by Nation of Islam terrorists.
1973.12.22 USA Oakland, CA 2 0 Nation of Islam terrorist kills two people in separate attacks on the same day.
1973.12.20 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 Nation of Islam terrorists gun down an 81-year-old janitor.
1973.12.13 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 A woman is shot to death on the sidewalk by Nation of Islam terrorists.
1973.12.11 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 A man is killed by Nation of Islam terrorists while using a phone booth.
1973.11.25 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 A grocer is killed in his store by Nation of Islam terrorists.
1973.10.29 USA Berkeley, CA 1 0 A woman is shot repeatedly in the face by Nation of Islam terrorists.
1973.10.19 USA Oakland, CA 1 1 Nation of Islam terrorists kidnap a couple and nearly decapitate the man, while raping and leaving the woman for dead.
1973.07.18 USA Washington, DC 8 2 Nation of Islam members shoot seven members of a family to death in cold blood, including four children. A defendant in the case is later murdered in prison on orders from Elijah Muhammad.
1973.07.01 USA Bethesda, MD 1 0 An Israeli diplomat is gunned down in his driveway by Palestinian terrorists.
1973.01.19 USA Brooklyn, NY 1 1 Muslim extremists rob a sporting goods store for weapons, gunning down a police officer who responds to the alarm.
1972.04.14 USA New York, NY 1 3 Ten members of a local mosque phone in a false alarm and then ambush responding officers, killing one.
The Iron law of conspiracy mongering is that both evidence and a lack of evidence, always point to there being a "conspiracy."
ha
You cannot sort it out definitively standing in one spot. You need multiple simultaneous recordings from widely separated and known vantage points along with a map showing likely reflecting building facades. Then you have a reasonable shot at determining whether the shots were from one point or or more.
Are there any grassy knolls near the sight of the shooting?
it’s good to see some sense pervading these threads. If these people were most of the posts i wouldn’t want to be associated with the site any more. a few nuts can be found anywhere so i can tolerate them.
Are there any white Muslim Jihadis of which we have heard before?
If you have recordings from widely seperated positions you can compare relative time of arrival of the reports and determine whether they were from a single point or multiple points.
Yes, it would be a difficult problem to solve with everything measured under controlled conditions, let alone in the midst of a fleeing crowd.
That's funny. That is almost exactly what I was saying to a friend yesterday about Free Republic. :)
But yeah, we should not be so quick to embrace theories for which there is little supporting or dispositive evidence.
“If you have recordings from widely seperated positions you can compare relative time of arrival of the reports and determine whether they were from a single point or multiple points.”
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You have that with the misc cell phone recordings. But I imagine they would have to be recording during the same time frame, which is probably nigh on impossible to compare and determine.
Here’s your grassy knoll....(let’s listen to a federal investigator & former SEAL Commander)
See this ‘Former SEAL Team Commander: Vegas Appears To Be Political Operation’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT43u1wvy-4
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