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‘Plan C’ on Obamacare, Repeal Now, Replace Later, Has Collapsed
New York Times ^ | 7/18/2017 | Thomas Kaplan

Posted on 07/18/2017 9:58:13 AM PDT by Alter Kaker

WASHINGTON — With their bill to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act in tatters, Senate leaders on Tuesday pushed to vote on a different measure that would repeal major parts of President Barack Obama’s health law without a replacement — but that plan appeared also to collapse.

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To: Oshkalaboomboom

There is quite a bit Trump and the head of HHS could do to more or less make Obamacare null and void. There are thousands of statements in the bill that leave it to the discretion of the head of HHS. Obama made a lot of decisions on stuff hisself.
I can’t figure out why Tom Price, I think that’s who is head of HHS, and Trump don’t more or less dismantle it piece by piece. They could. That’s the way most of it was put together.


21 posted on 07/18/2017 10:20:37 AM PDT by sheana
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To: Alter Kaker; All

Keep in mind Freepers this is The NY Times. So that automatically means it’s fake news.

Ryancare 2.0 failed yesterday. The Republicans now are talking full repeal finally!

Anyhow, the NY Times wishful thinking is that the full repeal is already dead. I would not put a lot of stock into what the NY Times hopes is the case.


23 posted on 07/18/2017 10:25:44 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Alter Kaker
Nos: Murkowski, Collins, Portman, Capito.

Remember these names when the narrative becomes President Trump didn't keep his campaign promise.

He kept them in session to try to fix the healthcare disaster and got a thorough backstabbing.

24 posted on 07/18/2017 10:27:46 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: sheana

See, if the TEA party stayed with it instead of getting too political and then performing a vanishing act, Trump could have announced a new party and his 62 million vote base, support candidates coming from the TEA party.


25 posted on 07/18/2017 10:27:54 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (“The fundamental question of our time is whether the West has the will to survive.”)
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To: LUV W

It will never happen as long as they keep sending money to the states to pay for Medicaid.


26 posted on 07/18/2017 10:35:59 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: kjam22

Can’t congress just not pay for and the agencies not enforce obamacare, and just let it collapse faster?


27 posted on 07/18/2017 10:38:10 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: bigtoona

He may end up doing that.


28 posted on 07/18/2017 10:39:00 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: bigtoona

That would work, and congress not bail out the insurance companies, Medicaid expansion, etc.


29 posted on 07/18/2017 10:40:52 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Alter Kaker

Executive Order replacing all healthcare plans for federal employees with their pick of Obamacare plans. All branches of government. Immediately. Watch the gridlock vanish.


30 posted on 07/18/2017 10:42:20 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: Sopater

No, this bill would keep obamacare for two years.


31 posted on 07/18/2017 10:44:01 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: LUV W

Republicans have run for years on repealing 0care. We gave them majorities in the House and Senate and the WH so they could do just that. They can’t manage to get anything done. Can’t even get their own party together enough to shepherd something through to the President’s desk.

Doing nothing until 0care explodes may be the only option left, but that failure to act is on them. If I hire a guy to fix a broken gas pipe and he does nothing until my house burns down, you better believe I’m gonna give that guy his share of the blame.


32 posted on 07/18/2017 10:46:08 AM PDT by The Numbers (God, Family and Country is Right.)
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To: Alter Kaker

Have the vote done. Let the RINO’s go on record as opposing repeal so we can repeal them in the primaries!


33 posted on 07/18/2017 10:46:26 AM PDT by Nateman (If liberals are not screaming you are doing it wrong!)
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To: LUV W

Works for me too, but if congress still bails out Medicaid and the insurance companies and continues enforces the taxes and business rules, it won’t fail as quickly.


34 posted on 07/18/2017 10:46:40 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: shibumi

Few freepers bought McConnels BS. The guy is a grand standing liar.
The Senate is bursting with them.


35 posted on 07/18/2017 10:47:22 AM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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To: Alter Kaker

The individual mandate needs to go.

The nation did just fine without a federal individual mandate in 2013, 2012 and 2011. Obviously, it was (and is) unnecessary.

We can deal with Medicaid problems after freeing the nation’s people from the unconstitutional and improper individual mandate.


36 posted on 07/18/2017 10:50:21 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: LUV W

“Trump: “I’m going to just let Obamacare fail and the dems can own it, not me.”


I felt that way months ago-——let them own it.

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37 posted on 07/18/2017 10:51:03 AM PDT by Mears
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To: Nateman

Exactly! In my opinion, anyone that can’t understand that the problem with where we are is that the Republican party is not right wing enough and would vote for leftists instead of continuing to force the party right is working against us.


38 posted on 07/18/2017 10:52:43 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Smoke does not mean fire when someone threw a smoke grenade.)
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To: All; DungeonMaster

They PASSED the repeal bill through both houses back when they KNEW Obama would veto it. Now that they have the WH, too...

Just the latest evidence that the GOP establishment are self-serving, despicable POLITICIANS who couldn’t care less about the greatest nation on earth.

They ONLY care about reelection and punching their ticket on the GRAVY TRAIN in DC.


39 posted on 07/18/2017 10:53:13 AM PDT by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson, 1824)
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To: newgeezer
They ONLY care about reelection and punching their ticket on the GRAVY TRAIN in DC.

Have you gotten to the "I quit voting forever" stage yet?

40 posted on 07/18/2017 11:21:42 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (How many ways do liberals hate the bible?)
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