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June 1857
Harper's Magazine archives (subscription required) ^ | June 1857 | Harper's

Posted on 06/01/2017 5:15:26 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: civilwar
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Hey Homer; I went to Half Price Books last night and found a copy of Fehrenbacher’s “The Dred Scott Case.” Reading the excerpts you posted caused me to put it on my list. Now, for the mere sum of $12 it is in the stack on the nightstand. I wish I’d done this a year ago, I would have been able to contribute more. Oh well, better late than never. Too bad my teachers never appreciated the wisdom of that philosophy.


41 posted on 06/24/2017 6:32:48 AM PDT by henkster (Orwell, Rand and Huxley would not be proud of our society, but they'd have no trouble recognizing it)
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To: henkster
I wish I’d done this a year ago, I would have been able to contribute more.

Not to worry. Dred Scott should be the main discussion topic here for some time to come. Your further thoughts on the matter are eagerly anticipated. In fact, A. Lincoln has had 3 months do chew on the decision and, now that Stephen A. Douglas has spoken on it (see reply 21 above) will respond to both in a speech the day after tomorrow.

42 posted on 06/24/2017 12:33:01 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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[Continued from June 24 (reply #39).]

June 25. . . . We’ve engaged a room at Round Hill (Northampton) for July 10. . . . My design is to stay at Munde’s till the sixth of July.

The Diary of George Templeton Strong, Edited by Allan Nevins and Milton Halsey Thomas

Charles Munde emigrated from Germany. He became familiar with the water cure methods of Vincent Priessnitz around 1836, and treated scarlet fever cases in Dresden during the winter of 1845-46.[2][3][4] From childhood recollections of one of his sons, Paul F. Munde, the family went to the area now (but not then, per Sheffeld) called Florence "in the early fifties", after his father had struggled "for nearly a year in New York in search of a practice". After the death of David Ruggles in 1849, Charles Munde learned "of the opportunity to take up his favorite method", which led him to pick up where Ruggles left off, thence to the naming of Florence,[5] and accordingly, the name of the Florence Water Cure, also called the Munde Water Cure.

From Florence, Massachusetts Wikipedia page. Florence is a section of Northampton, MA.

43 posted on 06/25/2017 5:29:00 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Continued from March 6 (reply #22).

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David Herbert Donald, Lincoln

Abraham Lincoln’s speech of June 26, 1857

44 posted on 06/26/2017 6:36:10 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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I should have located and posted the text of Douglas’ speech on June 12 since it is simple enough to find. Here is a link now that I have posted Lincoln’s reply (reply #44).

http://www.truthandgrace.com/1857DouglasSpeech0612.htm


45 posted on 06/26/2017 1:58:31 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

I disagree with Mr. Koerner. I think this man Lincoln could be more than a match for Douglas - just what the Republicans need.


46 posted on 06/26/2017 2:32:10 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

The text at that source only covers the Mormon issue, not the other two which are excluded.


47 posted on 06/26/2017 2:58:59 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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So I see. Starts at page 12. Thanks for the heads up. Here is another link that may have the complete speech.

https://www.gilderlehrman.org/collections/b1a6a423-ba27-4400-9783-296089734550


48 posted on 06/26/2017 3:02:56 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Was Douglas a Mormon?


49 posted on 06/26/2017 4:19:41 PM PDT by Jim W N
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No. I don’t know that religion played a prominent role in Douglas’s life. He belonged to several Masonic organizations.


50 posted on 06/26/2017 6:20:16 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Jim 0216

No, he was a Democrat who defended slavery in order to curry favor with the southern states.


51 posted on 06/26/2017 6:25:18 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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