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Household Appliances Were Cheaper 40 Years Ago—We’re Getting Ripped Off
National Economics Editorial ^ | May 12, 2017 | Spenser P. Morrison

Posted on 05/13/2017 9:10:35 PM PDT by grey_whiskers

What do flat-earthers and economists have in common?

They both mistake their models for reality. They confuse what ought to be with what is.

And that’s why economists are often wrong—even when they all agree, like when it comes to global free trade.

Ask 10 economists about global free trade, and 10 will say it’s good. Always good.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationaleconomicseditorial.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; History; Society
KEYWORDS: appliances; freetrade; greedymbas; obselescence; offshoring
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To: TigerClaws

i’m sorry, but appliances last more than 3-5 years. I have a 7 year old refrigerator and 5 year old washer and dryer that are just chugging right along. And they have more features and use less power than those build 30 years ago.

I know the posts deriding anything new, and telling us how great the old days were are popular, but most of the time they’re crap.


41 posted on 05/13/2017 9:46:43 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: smokingfrog

Early 1980’s, we switched to a plastic tub from the epoxy coated steel in 1984. The plastic tubs last forever, never rust out.
The new dishwashers only get .8 gallons per fill because of federal regulations and will not wash dishes.


42 posted on 05/13/2017 9:47:03 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Mine may be about 15 years old.
I was surprised at how easy it is to replace an ice-maker. A little over a hundred bucks for the new one.
On my side-by-side, unsnap supply line, 1/4” nutdriver for two blind screws, lift out, put in new one, level and tighten screws, re-snap supply—all done


43 posted on 05/13/2017 9:51:04 PM PDT by tumblindice ("Fight for your country." Hector)
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To: tumblindice

Yeah, icemakers are easy, I used to have to charge $300 to replace them, had to add “bang time”, make it look like it took longer and was more difficult so the customer wouldn’t feel bad.


44 posted on 05/13/2017 9:53:45 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

I don’t like most of the new dishwashers at all. Might as well just buy the cheapest one you can find. The drawer type dishwashers are nice, but they cost too much.


45 posted on 05/13/2017 9:56:00 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: haircutter

I remember when gas was 27 cents, just before OPEC screwed things up. There are probably Freepers who remember when it was 12.9 cents, 13.9 for premium.

However, gas is better now (no toxic lead), unless you’re paranoid about ethanol. Cars are way better, too, which explains why all the service stations have long been replaced by drugstores. You can drive many new cars for 100K miles without a tuneup. All they need is gas and (synthetic oil), and maybe 2 sets of tires instead of 5 or 6 from the “good old days”. Not to mention 30+ MPG instead of 8 to 12.


46 posted on 05/13/2017 9:56:26 PM PDT by AZLiberty (A is now A once again.)
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To: haircutter
"remember when gas cost 39 cents a gallon? those good old days were sure nice times..."

With inflation, gas prices are about the same now as then. But now, my 455 hp air conditioned, electric windowed car with navigation gets 27 mpg on the highway.

Back in the good old days with no ac our V8 got less than 20 on the highway with less than half the hp.

Back then that color TV had to be constantly adjusted and tubes replaced weekly.

These are the 'good old days'.

47 posted on 05/13/2017 9:57:53 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Lurkinanloomin

I know Chinese electrical tools are dicey. I wore out a 1/2” electrical drill recently, not that old, it just stopped working, and a power washer with some years just started smoking and gave up the ghost last week.


48 posted on 05/13/2017 9:59:41 PM PDT by tumblindice ("Fight for your country." Hector)
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To: TexasGator

My Mom’s fridge (GE) was older than I.

It was still running when we cleaned out her house, and I was about 65. The freezer compartment wouldn’t keep ice cream solid, and Dad had patched the door latch, but it kept food cold.


49 posted on 05/13/2017 10:04:07 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Brought to you from Turtle Island, otherwise known as 'So-Called North America')
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To: grey_whiskers

Many appliances have additional bells and whistles, quite literally. Try finding a “plain jane” appliance. Hard to find, but those are more reasonably priced.


50 posted on 05/13/2017 10:05:25 PM PDT by Jemian (War Eagle!)
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To: smokingfrog

I think it is about time I get that whole house surge protector. With today’s demands on our power systems, power surges are becoming more common. They may be a big factor why our appliances are failing so much.


51 posted on 05/13/2017 10:06:28 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental illness: A totalitarian psyche.)
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To: TigerClaws

“Then Sears pushes the charge account - 18% interest.”

Do they also stop you from saying NO?


52 posted on 05/13/2017 10:11:21 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: Lurkinanloomin

A repair guy I learn from on the internet for fixing my old stuff said that the new stuff, to be “energy efficient” uses smaller motors - but they have to work harder, and hence wear out quicker.

Although it seems on my newer stuff it will be the touch-screens that go bad and other electronic sensors and stuff. I was filling my new washing machine as per the instructions, but I guess it was too much soap - and blew out the “over-suds” sensor. So I replaced the sensor and reduced the soap level - it’s been a few years now with no more issues.


53 posted on 05/13/2017 10:15:07 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts FDR's New Deal = obama)
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To: grey_whiskers

blame our Federal Reserve. It corrupts our money on behalf of its banks and progressive government, and fills the world with American debt.


54 posted on 05/13/2017 10:16:04 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: TigerClaws

I bought my mother a Slovenian made clothes washer at Home Depot in 2003. It was dirt cheap. Don’t see them any more at Home Depot.

Built like a russian tank - simple, crude, and just keeps on going. 100% mechanical, no electronics. The internal water heater heats water to 200F. Whites are boiled clean. Mom loves it

That Slovenian machine will outlive us all.


55 posted on 05/13/2017 10:43:03 PM PDT by vooch (America First)
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To: TexasGator

Exactly. Today’s appliances are far superior to those of 40 years ago. Same goes for automobiles. Do I need to mention computers, or consumer electronics?


56 posted on 05/13/2017 10:58:49 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Bob434

Have you ever worked anywhere in the product development cycle, as an engineer, designer, or product manager?


57 posted on 05/13/2017 11:22:45 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: TigerClaws

Craigslist. Sometimes can find really good used appliances with lots of life left from remodels. Got my mom a upper tier dishwasher and fridge (diff places) way better than she’d ever afford on her own for a lot less, between 80-90% less than original cost.


58 posted on 05/13/2017 11:24:29 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: TigerClaws

The Japanese companies have this perfected (for them).. The day after your 1 (or 2) year warranty expires, there is a 95% chance that it will stop working... (and don’t think I am kidding :p )..


59 posted on 05/13/2017 11:24:30 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: Lurkinanloomin

GE has also spun off a lot of appliance units that it used to make.


60 posted on 05/13/2017 11:27:22 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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