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What Would the Second Korean War Look Like?
The Diplomat ^ | April 19, 2017 | Franz-Stefan Gady

Posted on 04/23/2017 8:02:29 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: GOPJ

Some areas may very well have such plans. As long as they aren’t installed they shoulx be ok. Same with generators and motors. This is the utility industry we are talking about, so while you CAN prep for this and come out ok, chances are they haven’t.


61 posted on 04/23/2017 9:49:49 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Truth, in a time of universal deceit, is courage)
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To: nickcarraway

So I looked at photos and videos of NK recently. One thing that struck me is how many times I saw military who looked gaunt. Few years back I saw pics of Kim visiting some site with what looked like computers or screens of some type that looked as if they were made in the 1950s. I have no doubt he can kill a lot of our troops & South Koreans & Japanese, but wonder if he can do anything even in 4-8 years to the US mainland.


62 posted on 04/23/2017 9:51:44 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: caww

So...the real question is: whose turn is it to babysit the little riceball in Pyongyang? China’s or Russia’s?


63 posted on 04/23/2017 9:59:20 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: Yosemitest

NK will use min/max artillery approach conventionally to annoy/threaten Seoul with the intent of luring USAF into NK airspace...where NK will pop off an aerial nuke over their own soil (because that is a “defensive” use of a nuke that China won’t spank them for) on the hope that a lucky blast will down a couple of USAF airborne assets which will temporarily cause the USA to stop flying over NK airspace during combat operations.

Likewise, NK will use their rustbucket subs as bait to lure in a USN sub-tracker, where a submerged nuclear mine will be suicide-detonated in the hopes that the blast will sink a U.S. submarine, keeping other USN assets out of NK waters.

In the meantime, NK’s army and civilian population will remain in NK’s vast underground tunnel network for 60 to 90 days, simply letting their entire surface infrastructure be destroyed.

At some point, NK will then send all of its air and army assets Southward while launching all of their ICBM’s in a blitz...hoping to catch the USA during resupply due to expending our munitions the previous 90 days taking out their surface infrastructure.

If they capture Seoul, they will plant a suicide nuke therein and threaten to detonate it if we try to reconquer the city.

Their plan will then call for reparations to be made if we don’t want Seoul destroyed.

...anyway...that’s what you get when you wargame them.


64 posted on 04/23/2017 10:12:49 PM PDT by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Most of the aircraft that they operate are out of the 1960s, and spare parts are a luxury. I would be curious if some of the MIG-17s get more than a dozen sortie flights per year. Fuel-wise, if the Chinese did cut off the flow as suggested in the news media....I doubt if the NK military can sustain more than two weeks of any active warfare.


65 posted on 04/23/2017 10:17:30 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: elcid1970

China’s....Russia’s simply backing them up.


66 posted on 04/23/2017 10:17:40 PM PDT by caww
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To: nickcarraway

I read the estimate cost of a US invasion of the Norks would be 250,000 US military casualties plus at least $1 trillion


67 posted on 04/23/2017 10:59:09 PM PDT by vooch (America First)
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To: Berosus
The fighting ended on 27 July 1953, when an armistice was signed. The agreement created the Korean Demilitarized Zone to separate North and South Korea, and allowed the return of prisoners. However, no peace treaty has been signed, and the two Koreas are technically still at war.[43][44] Periodic clashes, many of which are deadly, continue to the present.

Wikipedia

68 posted on 04/23/2017 11:00:18 PM PDT by hoosiermama (When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.DJT)
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To: Reno89519

Well this country and others have tried for years to figure out the path for a solution....but Kims nukes has changed the equation. Certainly china and Russia have concerns over who runs N.Korea....but now the US isn’t interested in preserving the status quo nor negotiating for the same Kims accustomed to and China absolutely understands this.

The ball remains in China’s hands currently....how long that will remain is where things are at of course.


69 posted on 04/23/2017 11:19:47 PM PDT by caww
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To: Southack
First what's your experience as to the basics of your opinion ?
Second, Ihow up-to-date are you on our military capabilities, or the military capabilities of South Korea ?
Third, did you click on the links under the photos to the right of my comments ?
Fourth, things never go "as war-gamed" .
70 posted on 04/24/2017 12:10:15 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: nickcarraway

“war plan for conflict on the Korean Peninsula purportedly calls for immediate but proportionate retaliation”

Porportionate? It should be overwhelming!


71 posted on 04/24/2017 3:23:07 AM PDT by dynachrome (When an empire dies, you are left with vast monuments in front of which peasants squat to defecate)
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To: nickcarraway

One sentence:

Much worse than the first korean war.


72 posted on 04/24/2017 3:37:15 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Captainpaintball
I don't think China, at this point, sees an EMP attack against the US to be in its interest. Who would buy all their cheap crap? Their economy would be destroyed.

Russia is in better shape to weather the storm of a collapse of the US electrical grid, but I don't think they would cause one, or even allow it to happen.

73 posted on 04/24/2017 4:00:02 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (We live in interesting times)
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To: nickcarraway

North Korea likely lacks the fuel to make a mechanized thrust down the 2 approaches to Seoul mentioned in the article. Back when Clinton was busy supplying a nuke reactor and diesel fuel to the Pyongyang regime in an effort to buy them off I had read a similar article that stated as much. That article posited a ‘leg’ infantry attack to seize territory in the rugged eastern end of the peninsula. They also assumed a large role for NK’s Special Operations units behind the lines.

So it all depends... Did the NK’s manage to preserve a war stockpile of Clinton’s fuel?


74 posted on 04/24/2017 4:02:20 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: caww
You say the KPA is weak from lack of food, like the rest of the country, and I agree. How much fuel do they have? Can they fuel the trucks and tanks to move and support all those soldiers?

How long can they sustain an attack? Months? Weeks? I think a few days at most while allied air power decimates their supply convoys.

75 posted on 04/24/2017 4:04:00 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (We live in interesting times)
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To: nickcarraway

In my opinion, Commie diplomat trying to pretend to do military analysis to scare people and protect Lil Kim; utter BS. Yes, damage to Seoul is pretty much unavoidable due to prepositioned artillery, but acting like we don’t know their potential CoAs and won’t take down their C2, log and infrastructure immediately, start hitting HVTs hard, control the airspace /infiltration routes/ Western Corridor, and be able to mass fires anywhere in the battlespace they try to organize forces is living in commie fantasy land. We were ready for this tenfold when I was there decades ago, and since then ROKA has gotten much stronger while they have grown much weaker.


76 posted on 04/24/2017 4:11:36 AM PDT by LambSlave
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To: Yosemitest
I agree with you. The author's assumptions are off the mark, I think. He assumes that Kim is rational. Kim is a psychotic gangster ruler of a slave state.

Think Pol Pot with a little bit of Stalin, Hitler, and Capone thrown in the mix. He is capable of just about anything.

77 posted on 04/24/2017 4:15:58 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (We live in interesting times)
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To: jonrick46

that”s what I was thinking.


78 posted on 04/24/2017 4:18:12 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: gaijin

My guess is the 10,000 or so artillery tubes we know Kim has aimed and loaded pointing at Seoul will be the first shot (”in response” to some real or imagined provocation). 20 minutes later the “war” will be over.


79 posted on 04/24/2017 4:31:17 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: nickcarraway

How did I come under the impression the US is technically still at was with Korea?


80 posted on 04/24/2017 4:31:24 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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