Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

B-52 Weapons Upgrade to Add More Payload, Range of Weapons
Scout Warrior ^ | April 19, 2017 | Kris Osborn

Posted on 04/20/2017 6:03:49 AM PDT by C19fan

The Air Force is surging forward with a massive, fleet-wide modernization overhaul of the battle-tested, Vietnam-era B-52 bomber, an iconic airborne workhorse for the U.S. military dating back to the 1960s. Engineers are now equipping all 76 of the Air Force B-52s with digital data-links, moving-map displays, next-generation avionics, new radios and an ability to both carry more weapons internally and integrate new, high-tech weapons as they emerge, service officials said.

(Excerpt) Read more at scout.com ...


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: aerospace; aviation; b52; bomber
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-29 next last
Amazing the air frames have and will last that long. I guess the BUFFs will still fly with 1950s style turbojets instead of installing more modern turbofans.
1 posted on 04/20/2017 6:03:49 AM PDT by C19fan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: C19fan

Considering the last one was built around 50 years or so ago, what percentage of each is original? Is the such a thing as an original b-52?

Just wondering.


2 posted on 04/20/2017 6:07:53 AM PDT by x1stcav (White. Male. Unreconstructed.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: C19fan

It's about time! I've always said the problem with the B-52 was its limited payload. The standard B-52 loadout only includes eight AGM-84 Harpoon missiles, four AGM-142 Raptor missiles, fifty-one 500-pound bombs, thirty 1,000-pound bombs, twenty AGM-86C conventional air-launched cruise missiles (CALCM), twelve joint stand-off weapons (JSOW), twelve joint direct-attack munitions (JDAM), and sixteen wind-corrected munitions dispensers (WCMD). That's only 153 total.

3 posted on 04/20/2017 6:17:57 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: C19fan

I remember reading about a pilot who flew the same B-52 his grandfather flew.


4 posted on 04/20/2017 6:18:15 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("In a Time of Universal Deceit Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act" - George Orwell)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Pollster1

We’ll meet again.
Don’t know where,
don’t know when...


5 posted on 04/20/2017 6:19:05 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: x1stcav

I was just wondering if it was time to put the B52 back into production. Seems to me that we will be using them for the foreseeable future.


6 posted on 04/20/2017 6:20:45 AM PDT by dangerdoc (disgruntled)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: C19fan

The AF is also looking at another engine upgrade.


7 posted on 04/20/2017 6:26:49 AM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: x1stcav
Sounds like the fella that claimed to own George Washington's ax. Of course the handle had been replaced three times, and head twice, but it was still George's ax, or so he claimed.

In the case of aircraft, the usual rule is that everything can be replaced except the airframe itself and it's still the same aircraft. But, like you, I wonder how far that can be taken. If I have only the manufacturer's data plate left, can I build an airplane around it and call it the original? I need to check with my EAA buddies.

8 posted on 04/20/2017 6:28:19 AM PDT by Pecos (Actual justice must be defended against the newspeak of social justice crybullies.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: dangerdoc

Weren’t there hundreds parked at Davis-Monthan? You might be able to make them airworthy again.


9 posted on 04/20/2017 6:28:30 AM PDT by x1stcav (White. Male. Unreconstructed.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Eric in the Ozarks

Any plane that will inspire Slim Pickens . . .

10 posted on 04/20/2017 6:30:04 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: C19fan

There was a conversation some time ago to re-equip the B52s with 747/777/787 type High bypass engines, replacing the 2 engine pods with a single HB engine. This was dropped in the argument that the 8 engine config.gave greater combat redundancy.


11 posted on 04/20/2017 6:30:34 AM PDT by Robe (A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Pecos

Interesting questions.

I think the s/n plate controversy arose over a Ferrari replica some decades back.

Was it the same car?


12 posted on 04/20/2017 6:30:50 AM PDT by x1stcav (White. Male. Unreconstructed.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: x1stcav
Weren’t there hundreds parked at Davis-Monthan? You might be able to make them airworthy again

All were chopped up (under SALT 1 Treaty, I think)and left in 4-5 pieces, so the Russkies could verify their destruction via satellite.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/0a/eb/36/0aeb369a683640b30ed83ff1eed4e545.jpg

13 posted on 04/20/2017 6:38:57 AM PDT by Robe (A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: x1stcav
Weren’t there hundreds parked at Davis-Monthan? You might be able to make them airworthy again.

Doubtful. There are still a few intact, but most were intentionally destroyed as part of the SALT treaties with Russia.


14 posted on 04/20/2017 6:39:51 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: x1stcav
Weren’t there hundreds parked at Davis-Monthan? You might be able to make them airworthy again

All were chopped up (under SALT 1 Treaty, I think)and left in 4-5 pieces, so the Russkies could verify their destruction via satellite.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/0a/eb/36/0aeb369a683640b30ed83ff1eed4e545.jpg

15 posted on 04/20/2017 6:40:21 AM PDT by Robe (A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: C19fan
This is great, but again no engine upgrade / retrofit.

Why? The range, climb benefits, less spare parts and greater reliability.

My choice would be the Pratt Geared Turbofan, the PW1133G/GA-JM, PW1130G-JM 33110 Pounds of thrust takeoff, 32780, continuous, per Wiki.

A bit less than their 34,000 lbs combined for the two old TF-33's, I am sure they can push it.

Looks at the TSFC, 0.78 lb/(lbf·h) for the TF-33, vs. an estimate of .35 ( CFM 56 - 15%, ) Pratt is claiming 15% lower TSFC than it's rivals, and I can find a published number for a TSFC pf .2975 estimated vs .78. Yeeeowzer...

16 posted on 04/20/2017 6:44:29 AM PDT by taildragger (Do you hear the people singing? The Song of Angry Men!....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Robe

Current inventory at the boneyard at Davis-Monthan:

http://www.amarcexperience.com/ui/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=118&Itemid=238

You have to look under the 28 sections, but we have more than 100 B-52s there.


17 posted on 04/20/2017 6:46:28 AM PDT by exit82 (The opposition has already been Trumped!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Yo-Yo

put them back together and modify them to handle the MOAB.


18 posted on 04/20/2017 6:47:41 AM PDT by davidb56
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Yo-Yo

People (politicians) should have been shot for that execution style!


19 posted on 04/20/2017 6:48:40 AM PDT by gr8eman (facts and evidence are bourgeois constructs weaponized by patriarchal penis-people)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: C19fan


20 posted on 04/20/2017 6:48:43 AM PDT by Delta 21
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-29 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson