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Jury starts deliberating in first Bunkerville standoff trial
Las Vegas Review Journal ^ | 4/13/2017 | Jenny Wilson

Posted on 04/14/2017 3:57:55 AM PDT by Nextrush

A federal jury started deliberations Thursday in the conspiracy trial of six people charged in the 2014 standoff in Bunkerville.

Jurors received the case after a prosecutor finished his closing argument with a searing assertion that the six men on trial 'put the fear of God' in law enforcement officers who were impounding rancher Cliven Bundy's cattle.

"For what? For some cattle? For someone who hasn't paid grazing fees in 20 years?" bellowed Acting U.S. Attorney Steven Myhre. "Or because it made them feel like they're somebody in a moment in time?"

Defense attorneys in their agruments, insisted their clients had no knowledge of a conspiracy to threaten, intimidate or extort federal agents.....

Defense Attorney Rich Tanasi, who represents Steven Stewart, said his client went to Bunkerville "not to commit crimes, not to assault federal officers, but to exercise his First Amendment right to protest..and he did so with his Second Amendment right."

Federal prosecutors posed as documentary filmmakers to draw statements from some of the defendants...

Defense (attorney Todd) Leventhal referenced the voluminous evidence from the day of the standoff. "Over 18,500 documents, 170,000 pages, thousands of hours of video..After all the evidence, they decide to go undercover again," he said. "Why else would FBI agents spend the time, the resources? Because they don't have more.".........

(Excerpt) Read more at reviewjournal.com ...


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KEYWORDS: bunkervillestandoff; donaldtrump; nevada; oregonstandoff; squatters
The first Bunkerville Standoff trial of six defendants is now in the hands of the jury.

Supporters of the defendants marched outside the federal courthouse in Las Vegas yesterday shouting "jury nullification".

The jury continues its deliberations Monday.

Take note the lead prosecutor in this case Steven Myhre, is now the Acting US Attorney in Las Vegas. He's in that position because the Obama US Attorney has resigned.

Myhre is planning a trial sometime after June 5th this year for a second group of defendants including Cliven Bundy and his sons Ammon and Ryan.

When will Mr. Sessions appoint a new US Attorney in Vegas and shut down the prosecution-persecution of the Bundy's and their supporters?

1 posted on 04/14/2017 3:57:55 AM PDT by Nextrush
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To: Nextrush
The question is did the Bundy's steal the use of our federal lands? Yes, they quit paying grazing fees, continued to graze. This prevented the government from leasing that land to other people willing to pay. All the rest is BS and complicates their theft, not excuses it. They are in jail, deserve to be convicted, and sentenced. Someone needs to have a nice steak with their cattle that apparently still graze our public lands.

Now separately, we might discuss (1) federal ownership of the lands (which I think is good), (2) use of those lands (free and paid), which is good, and if paid, should be at value market will bear. Speaking of grazing, there has never been shortage of cattle and sheep ranchers willing to pay.

2 posted on 04/14/2017 4:08:18 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp is not party specific. Lyn' Ted is still a liar, Good riddance to him.)
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To: Nextrush

And these people charged with armed conspiracy, throw the book at them. They were defending thieves, acting as an armed gang. No sympathy for them.


3 posted on 04/14/2017 4:10:46 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp is not party specific. Lyn' Ted is still a liar, Good riddance to him.)
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To: Nextrush

I certainly pray they’ve at least heard the word ... NULLIFY.


4 posted on 04/14/2017 4:13:45 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: Reno89519

If they’re federal lands .... they’re not “ours”


5 posted on 04/14/2017 4:15:20 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: Reno89519

Reno, you are a left wing Government shill and don’t know what you aare talking about. Part of the problem is the oppoosition to your ignorant stance is made up of anti government Mormons which ileaves America with a no win situation,


6 posted on 04/14/2017 5:10:09 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: Lion Den Dan

Speaking of not knowing what you are talking about. I applaud your perception of Reno’s stance on the issue whether he gets it or not. The rest of your comments make no sense at all. The Bundy’s are not anti-government nor were the good folks who came to assist them and the Bundy’s did their best to screen those who came to keep out the very people you are talking about.

I would contend that the most anti-government folks there were those who came as informants in an attempt to trap, those the FBI viewed as anti-government who were anything but. Out of control alphabet agencies such as the EPA, BLM, Forest Service, FBI, etc, and their unconstitutional efforts to subjugate, control, and eliminate ranchers from certain federal lands has been an important issue since the seventies and the Sage Brush Rebellion.


7 posted on 04/14/2017 7:34:28 AM PDT by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and. the pursuit of Happiness.)
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To: Lion Den Dan

http://www.hcn.org/articles/sagebrush-rebellion

I have not gone through all of the articles linked, but there are some good and some I would consider viewed more from your present perspective.


8 posted on 04/14/2017 7:42:08 AM PDT by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and. the pursuit of Happiness.)
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“Govt lands”? BLM? Well, I guess it worked for the (native) Indians, right? /s

Doubt the ‘judge’ or prosecutors would allow a reading of the Constitution...

Hedley Lamarr: Wait a minute... there might be legal precedent. Of course! Land-snatching!
[grabs a law book]
Land, land... “Land: see Snatch.”
[flips back several pages]
Ah, Haley vs. United States. Haley: 7, United States: nothing. You see, it can be done


9 posted on 04/14/2017 8:41:01 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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"Doubt the judge or prosecutors would allow a reading of the constitution"

Sure they will, and they would correctly point you to the "property clause" of the constitution.

But you are like all the other poorly educated and incorrectly maintain that the "enclave clause" applies.

10 posted on 04/14/2017 8:58:23 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: knarf; Lion Den Dan
We as the public own the federal lands and the stewards of the lands, our government, manage them. Definitely issues with that management and I hope we'll see some fixes by Trump's administration.

Knee-jerk insults, dismissing me as left-wing, etc., when I am not, show unwillingness to debate the points. Guess you want a band of yes-people to echo-chamber your anti-government hostilities?

A shame really, since there are meaningful discussions on several topics:

  1. Did Bundy's steal grazing on our public lands? By their own admission, yes. And since they previously paid, then stopped, why? Were they too poor, did they just want to live off the taxpayer, trying to get away with it, thinking they could? As I already said, in my opinion they were simply thieves, nothing more.
  2. Besides, were others ready to pay to graze on those same lands? By multiple reports, yes, a line of other ranchers ready to pay to use those same lands.
  3. Did the Bundy's and armed people organize and stand with arms to continue stealing the use of our lands? Yes.
  4. Should the public own lands? In my opinion, yes. I enjoy that 82% of Nevada is open to public access and use. And, yes, as noted above, we need better management and rules.
  5. Finally, and I could go on with questions, but how about this? Is the blatant theft of public grazing, backed by arms, an appropriate response to public ownership and management of those lands? Does this help the cause of anyone wanting to have the government divest of some of those lands?

So, instead of insults and trying to shut down conversation or inconvenient points, why don't you engage in a conversation, answer questions, not distract with anti-government BS?

11 posted on 04/14/2017 9:48:32 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp is not party specific. Lyn' Ted is still a liar, Good riddance to him.)
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To: Reno89519

From what I read early on in all this, the Bundy family grazing rights predate the BLM and run with their land. It’s like having mineral rights, they don’t own the ground, just grazing rights. The BLM was supposed to maintain and enhance the grazing on the land. Once they failed to do so in favor of turtles and Harry Reids interests, they stopped paying the fees.

I suppose that rubs your overbearing big government fur backwards, tough crap. And yeah, you can do your own research on it.


12 posted on 04/14/2017 4:38:41 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: MileHi

That was debunked a long time ago, which is why it’s not mention much by anybody anymore.


13 posted on 04/14/2017 7:15:31 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp is not party specific. Lyn' Ted is still a liar, Good riddance to him.)
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To: Reno89519

I’ll have to look into it.


14 posted on 04/15/2017 6:30:22 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Ben Ficklin

>
“Doubt the judge or prosecutors would allow a reading of the constitution”

Sure they will, and they would correctly point you to the “property clause” of the constitution.

But you are like all the other poorly educated and incorrectly maintain that the “enclave clause” applies.
>
Well, bless your heart.

Yes, the magical clause(s) that supersede the rest of the text in entirety. Surprised you didn’t whip out the ol’ ‘Commerce Clause’ as well. Guess it’s what I should suspect, we’ve long been a dead Republic.

But, you are correct in one point. I was poorly educated in the publik skool system. Luckily, I was still taught to read and strive to correct that deficiency, to comprehend; you may have missed that last part with your ‘ivy league’ learnins. Or just dropped on your head.


15 posted on 04/18/2017 5:16:21 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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