Posted on 01/30/2017 10:03:47 PM PST by RainMan
Sorry, posting from my phone.
Laissez-faire caused the Industrial Revolution. Government ended it.
it's a sweat shop full of cheap foreign labor that replaces American .
Disney hired Visas scam crowd and ship them to Fl and made the let go America train there train there foreign replacements
Disney need to be raided for these practices to find out more about these Rico like actions.
Enough of these foreigners taking American jobs.
throw them all out .
Nissan office in Nashville Tn is all foreigners too .
Shut that crap down too.
What is amazing is this systematic influx of immigrants these companies have willfully participated in at the expense of American workers.
Yes. Simply shutting down the H1B program would mean not recruiting the best and brightest from around the world. That has been good for American industry.
What we need to eliminate is the hiring of foreign workers just because the businesses don’t want to pay what American workers demand. That can be done by making it more expensive to hire foreign workers than American — but if the foreign worker is really exceptional it will be worth it.
yes as much as I think the program has been abused there are a small percentage of workers that we get that give the united states an edge internationally
In Europe, unless you are Muslim, it is difficult to get a work visa.
In Sweden, a particular interest of mine, the process was so onerous, companies just did not consider foreigners for hire.
I should have said I was Muslim.
One of my boys clued me in to H1B abuse.
He took a job at a company in Houston which did deep sea oil geology surveys. These are done by boats dragging transducers, and generate huge amounts of data.
He said that the work situation was terrible. Of course it was compounded by the drop in oil over the 2 years he was there, but that wasn’t the real problem. The place was full of H1B workers, mostly Chinese and Indians. It made him a stranger in his own country.
The real problem is this: Supposedly the H1B rules set a minimum salary for an H1B worker that is comparable to that for a similarly skilled American worker. But the reality is different. Once an H1B worker takes such a job, his continued presence in the US depends on him keeping that job. The companies know this, and flog the workers mercilessly. 70 or more hours a week, with heavy weekend involvement is common. Now, if the H1B lasts through that for either 3 or 4 years, he becomes eligible for a green card, and his life becomes much better—he can compete directly with Americans in better working conditions.
If you’re working in the H1B shop, if you’re American, you’ve got to do those same hours. After all, you’re a professional, not an hourly worker, they say. You get a salary, and you do your job, no matter how long it takes. Or more likely, you do 1 1/2 to 2 jobs.
There’s a lot of places that operate this way, with Master’s or Ph.D. H1B’s treated like indentured servants. Bad for them, but also bad for us—because it deindustrializes the US, because the word gets out that STEM can be bad career deal, rather than the glamorized way it is currently portrayed.
Most professionals in the IT industry have fought the “Establishment” their whole life which has tried relentlessly to impoverish them through taxation, affirmative action, and with programs like H-1B. The US government/corporate/globalist complex is the enemy, no question about it.
That's a little extreme in my opinion. Do you work in IT? I have for 30+ years and I've seen a lot of changes that have led to the current situation, and in fact I saw the writing on the wall in the late 90s for programmers and shifted my focus to project management. Expelling current visa holders would bring much of the commerce to a halt in this country very quickly.
I would much rather see companies incentivised to more rigorously look for domestic talent or train legal citizens/residents to fill open positions before they are allowed to use the H1B program to staff. Also, these IT giants with billions of dollars in their reserves should be incentivised to fund schools and training facilities to create a generation of home grown IT talent. I suspect any directive from the president will have this long term goal in mind.
Yes, I work in IT since getting out of the Navy in 1982. The absolute worst thing to occur to IT and to America is H1B and L1 visas, the importing of cheap foreign labor to replace Americans. There has NEVER been a shortage of Americans to fill or train to fill these jobs. Okay, a bit of a challenge since our schools recruit foreign students instead of people here in our communities. But end of day H1B and L1 visa holders undermine American workers, drive wages down. End both now! Or, make companies pay 100% tax surcharge for each foreign worker and use that to train Americans. Else make them hire an American to shadow the foreign worker to learn their job and take it over within a year. Lots of possible schools to invest in American workers. H1B, though, no!
Agreed, there should be much stronger focus on training Americans in these fields. The problem starts at the lowest levels of education and the dumbing down of the education system in this country. Reduced emphasis on maths and sciences to start with. At the higher levels, colleges give preference to foreign students (who pay much higher tuition - boosting the college’s bottom line), who are almost always focused on the maths/sciences fields.
Visa also does it. Fires Americans to hire H-1Bs.
So does Comcast, Century Link, Charter Communications, Time Warner, and every other telecom company I personally know of.
“Expelling current visa holders would bring much of the commerce to a halt in this country very quickly. “
No, it would not. What a drama queen.
They are supposed to be doing that now, but that hasn't slowed the H-1B flood at all.
My clients, who are responsible for around 80% of the electronic payments flow throughout the country are unfortunately part of the problem and rely heavily on H1B resources (part of the original problem we were having a civilized discussion about until you joined) to support the systems that process said transactions. Once those resources are gone, the remaining staff has neither the bandwidth nor subject matter expertise to maintain/fix/upgrade the software. Things quickly go south; transactions at merchant locations start failing, ATMs don't get fixed or upgraded when they fail or require upgrades, the largest banks in the country each with millions of daily transactions don't get their reconciliation files and cannot balance their ACH transactions, the system stops, chaos ensues. All by the 30 day mark.
Add to my last response all the telecom infrastructure that another poster mentioned (outside my area of knowledge but the same principles apply nonetheless). I’m not defending the H1B program by any means, I’m simply saying that we are so far down that road that a knee-jerk solution will have negative consequences.
You’ve wasted my time. Nothing new there, and nothing in conflict with what I have already stated. It doesn’t matter if a business can get a foreign worker to work for zero salary if the government is collecting a 6-figure per year visa fee, the business won’t use foreign workers. It is all about the money and if foreign workers cost significantly more — including wages and taxes and visa fees — then they will stop using foreign workers. Unless there is some TRUE superstar. They are not going to pay the government $100K per year in visa fees for a low quality wage slave.
Of course, Coulter’s fatuous argument about “average IQs” in India is ridiculous. Averages mean nothing. Averages do not preclude the existence of geniuses within that population. Especially when you are talking about a country with a population of 1.3 Billion people, comparing them to tiny populations like Canada and UK and Norway is just specious. Not one of Coulter’s better rants.
Does your livelihood depend on, in any way, immigrant work visas? Have you ever employed and immigrant on a H or L work visa? Or acted as agent for same?
Does your livelihood depend on, in any way, immigrant work visas? Have you ever employed and immigrant on a H or L work visa? Or acted as agent for same?
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