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1 posted on 01/04/2017 7:49:06 AM PST by italianquaker
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In my experience, just about the only thing that seems to work with these rockheads is public humiliation.

I would take my story to a local reporter or talk radio host. If doing so would not infringe on your wife’s privacy too much.


2 posted on 01/04/2017 7:54:29 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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I've never dealt with this situation before, but I would suggest that you print copies of the materials from the insurance company's website where they list the place as an in-network provider. Also, put together a set of notes to document the time and date of the phone call you made to them.

This information might come in handy in the event of a billing dispute. If the insurance company continues to give you a hard time, you should look to pursue this through your state insurance commission.

3 posted on 01/04/2017 7:55:08 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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Print the screen of it showing the provider in network. Write to the insurance company and cc to the state insurance commissioner.

Tell them that you (or the insured) called to verify and was told it was in network. Tell them you expect to have the charges covered as “in network”, in accordance with the terms of the insurance policy. Wait a few weeks....


5 posted on 01/04/2017 7:56:29 AM PST by NEMDF
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Put all communications in writing. Saves headaches later and $$$


9 posted on 01/04/2017 8:03:17 AM PST by goodnesswins (Say hello to President Trump)
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Keep calling. Also, jot down the date/time/name of CS agents you talk with.

If the current CS agent can’t give you an answer, ask to speak to the supervisor. Take it up the chain of command.

If their website says they are in the network, make a screencap for reference later.

If necessary, contact your state Insurance board.


10 posted on 01/04/2017 8:03:56 AM PST by TomGuy
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Claims specialists tend to charge between $50 and $100 an hour... Consultation is usually free.

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11 posted on 01/04/2017 8:04:20 AM PST by GOPJ (ObamaCare Motto: "If You Like Your Doctor, Maybe You'll Like Your New Doctor" - Dave Barry)
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Take SCREEN SHOTS of EVERYTHING and PRINT All of it, then go down to the US Post Office and FILE a Formal Criminal Complaint of MAIL FRAUD, documenting the FRAUDULENT use of the US Post Office to willfully and knowingly send FRAUDULENT BILLING NOTICES, it is a FELONY to do so.

Get a hold of your STATE dept of Consumer Affairs and File another FORMAL CRIMINAL COMPLAINT for Deceptive and Fraudulent Advertising and Fraudulent or Deceptive Billing Practices.

THIS WILL GET THEIR ATTENTION.


12 posted on 01/04/2017 8:10:55 AM PST by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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Having the name of the person at the company will not help you. If the company says you are wrong, you are wrong even if they said previously you were right.
They are like the government. You have to pound them into submission. You call until you get someone who agrees with you and then escalate from there.


13 posted on 01/04/2017 8:15:47 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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Use the following chart to deal with your insurance company. This chart compares what they say to what they really mean

What they say What they mean
In Network Pay up
Out of Network Pay up
Co-Insurance Pay up
We’ll look into that Pay up
We have to check Pay up

You get the idea. They make it supremely complex and impossible for the normal person to understand.

Last December, my son was disgnozed with a chronic disease. He spent four days in the hospital and has an $11,000 treatment every two months. We figured we hit our deductible by January. In February, he broke his elbow and we figured the surgery would be 100% covered. Using whatever corny math these people have, I think we finally hit our out of pocket deductible in October.

My wife, with an accounting degree and about 100 hours of research has discovered thousands of dollars in errors, surprisingly all in their favor.

I even asked my company why they don’t have an ombudsman to help employees navigate this morass.

Plus, every time we catch a mistake, they credit us and then recalculate every bill since the mistake was made, resulting in even more errors.

Good luck. Never give up. Question and fight every dollar.


14 posted on 01/04/2017 8:17:07 AM PST by cyclotic (Democrats haven't been this mad since we freed their slaves)
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There are several good suggestions but to be formal and uphold your appeal rights it does have to be in writing and via certified mail for your appeal.

Depending on your state the insurance commissioners are coming down hard on the plans for bad data on the provider websites and directories.

The plan can pay an out of network provider as in network so you can request that.

You can also contact your legislators for help. The insurance companies hate legislative complaints.

There is a difference here to make everyone aware so you know to ask the questions in the future.

The people who perform tests/x-rays etc and the people who read and interpret them can and often are separate. Both contract separately and charge separately.


15 posted on 01/04/2017 8:18:50 AM PST by call meVeronica
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The same basic scenario happened to me on a root canal. By a reputable dentist in Dallas, who claims not to be in network.

Looks like more and more doctors are playing both sides of the aisle, and since the insurance companies are only looking out for themselves, the consumer gets burned.

i will follow the advice above and keep pushing.

16 posted on 01/04/2017 8:26:55 AM PST by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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We work with several doctors and consistently receive calls from patients who are requesting that we verify benefits and coverage for them before they make an appointment for services. Have heard the statement “But you’re listed as in their network” more times then I can count after I tell them the doctor is not in their network.

Insurance carriers combine and expand networks all the time and allow employers or third party administrators to use their networks without the provider agreeing to be in a specific part of their network.

Best bet is always have the doctor or service provider confirm your benefits before you are ever seen. Keep a record of the verifier’s name, date and time they gave you the benefits. You might even wish to have them email you the benefits they are quoting. You simply should never believe anything you read on the internet when it comes to insurance companies.


21 posted on 01/04/2017 9:35:25 AM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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FYI: - Now a days whenever I go for any procedure I call the insurance company and get them to tell me in advance what the out of pocket cost is going to be.


* I am in an insurance billing nightmare also. I had to go for an MRI.
*I called the insurance company and confirmed my specialist was in the network.
* My specialist called the insurance company and also confirmed they were in the network
* I was billed for over $3500. At no time did the insurance company ever tell me what the out of pocket costs would be . The insurance company insisted they needed the bill BEFORE they could tell me what they would pay.

I have pretty decent insurance and never had a bill like this before. After hearing about all these billing nightmares I am convinced someone used the wrong billing code but I am not sure what I can do about it since the insurance company will not respond to my letters.

I THINK the insurance company was negligent in not giving me more information about the billing process. If I knew in advance maybe I could have negotiated with the provider or delayed treatment since it was not an emergency. I don't want to be a whiner but I don't want to get taken advantage of.
24 posted on 01/04/2017 11:11:03 AM PST by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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