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Folders return to Windows 10's Start Thing (Coming in "Creators Update")
The Register ^ | Dec 30, 2016 | Andrew Orlowski

Posted on 12/31/2016 9:20:24 AM PST by dayglored

Because it’s not complicated enough already, Windows 10’s Start menu will support folders in a forthcoming release.

The Windows 10 Redstone 2 release, also dubbed the “Creators Update”, will allow apps to be nested, much as with Windows Phone 8, and the mobile edition of Windows 10. The update is expected around April, and aggregates work since the Anniversary Update in early August. Around a dozen builds have been released via the Insider Preview program since the official announcement in October.

The folders appear in an unofficial leaked build (14997) and MS Power User blog has a nice GIF of them in action, here.

The leaked build also showcases new tab behaviour in the Edge browser, and a system wide night mode, which reduces the blue light emitted by the display.

It’s a mystery why Microsoft deemed Start screen folders acceptable for mobile users, but not desktop users.

Windows 10’s current Start menu/screen thing is a complex hybrid of the Windows 8 start screen and the Windows XP/7 menu.

Like the sex organs of the duck, it's an inexplicable evolutionary artefact.

A Thing.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: creatorsupdate; microsoft; windows; windows10; windowspinglist
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Ah, yes, Orlowski at his sarcastic best.

Meanwhile, here's that animated GIF. The improvements to the Win10 Start Thing are a wonder to behold. Obvious as all get-out, too:

https://cdn-mspoweruser.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/start.gif

What the heck is Redmond doing up there?

1 posted on 12/31/2016 9:20:24 AM PST by dayglored
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To: Abby4116; afraidfortherepublic; aft_lizard; AF_Blue; amigatec; AppyPappy; arnoldc1; ATOMIC_PUNK; ...
Windows 10 revises the Start Thing, coming soon... PING!

You can find all the Windows Ping list threads with FR search: just search on keyword "windowspinglist".

2 posted on 12/31/2016 9:22:02 AM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

I think they should take very so-called human factors programmers and leadership at MS and chain and shackle them to a pair of oxen that trudges relentlessly though their township and rubs the meat from their bones.

These people are WORTHLESS. They have yet to figure out that not every human has the same capacity for stupid shit as they.


3 posted on 12/31/2016 9:22:59 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: dayglored

I am so glad I went out and bought a Windows 7 laptop before they disappeared.


4 posted on 12/31/2016 9:24:58 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents)
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To: dayglored

I just hope my Win7 Laptop and Desktop hold out.

And Linux is still way behind. I bought a Linux laptop to try out before the Win7 machines wear out. One almost has to be a programmer just to install software and updates.

I heard one sales rep on HSN or QVC admit that Win10 was designed for touchscreens. It sure wasn’t designed for productivity.


5 posted on 12/31/2016 9:27:32 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Gaffer

The numbskull who created ribbon menuing and thought that was a brilliant idea should be summarily executed — and don’t even wait for sun up.

I have some programs that will not adjust window size and the ribbon menu takes up about 1/4 to 1/3 of the screen space.


6 posted on 12/31/2016 9:32:15 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: dayglored
It’s a mystery why Microsoft deemed Start screen folders acceptable for mobile users, but not desktop users.

Some potential solutions to the "mystery."

1. Respective program/development teams did not communicate with each other
2. No requirements
3. One program dropped requirements to meet the date
4. Development teams from different countries/not geographically co-located
5. No test cases/use cases for verification/validation

On a personal note, I just do not like thew new Win10 menu structure. I know it's customizable, but it's a new configuration item to manage. As I see it, the menu has too many hidden things that pop up and I don't really care about the latest news feed (for example, G. Michael in your gif). I don't want variable things in my menu structure; I want it stable and consistent!

7 posted on 12/31/2016 9:33:51 AM PST by HonkyTonkMan
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To: dayglored
I would probably have about as much luck figuring it out if it looked like this, lol.


8 posted on 12/31/2016 9:34:16 AM PST by deoetdoctrinae (Donate monthly and end FReepathons.)
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To: TomGuy

The common mistake of human factors purveyors is that they think their twisted tilt on what a ‘human’ thinks is what is needed. They never cease to realize that suitability and perfection (not attainable for all, BTW) are different. They THINK they have to ‘improve’ and in doing so they clearly regularly fail.


9 posted on 12/31/2016 9:37:21 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: TomGuy

“One almost has to be a programmer just to install software and updates.”

You don’t need the word “almost” in that sentence.
The problem is compounded by not really having an official user manual that helps to solve problems. If you ask on the forums you can get answers that are helpful but mostly you get snark.


10 posted on 12/31/2016 9:40:35 AM PST by Fai Mao (PIAPS for Prison 2016)
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To: TomGuy

What Linux distro were you using? I installed several packages on Ubuntu without any difficulty, and without using the command line.


11 posted on 12/31/2016 9:40:55 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: dayglored

Just install the clean and free “CLassic Shell” and never see that Redmond shite again.


12 posted on 12/31/2016 9:41:58 AM PST by bigbob (We have better coverage than Verizon - Can You Hear Us Now?)
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To: HonkyTonkMan

install classic shell- i won’t use windows 10 without it- (I dual boot and only use windows now offline and for windows only programs like photoshop and games- the first thing i do when installing windows 10 is install classic shell and get the menu back the way I like it- not how some snot nosed kid fresh out of coding classes thinks I would like it)


13 posted on 12/31/2016 9:43:29 AM PST by Bob434
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To: Lurkinanloomin
I am so glad I went out and bought a Windows 7 laptop before they disappeared.

They are still available. I just bought one with Windows 7 installed for Christmas. And I agree with you.

14 posted on 12/31/2016 9:47:21 AM PST by gunsequalfreedom
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To: bigbob
> Just install the clean and free “CLassic Shell” and never see that Redmond shite again.

AMEN BROTHER! Classic Shell has saved my sanity on every Win10 system I've had to install or work on.

Classic Shell Download

15 posted on 12/31/2016 9:47:34 AM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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> ...install classic shell- i won’t use windows 10 without it- ...

BTW, Classic Shell appears to work just fine on Windows Server 2012 (the one that introduced the Windows 8 B.S. to Server Editions). I haven't had occasion to try it on Server 2016 yet but I don't expect any issues.

16 posted on 12/31/2016 9:51:44 AM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored; Bob434
Thank you Bob434!

Unfortunate that we have to find a TP pkg for something as basic a menu navigation.

I am seeing a trend with lack for regard for basic UI and menu design. Maybe the trend is really I'm getting old!!

17 posted on 12/31/2016 9:52:19 AM PST by HonkyTonkMan
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To: TomGuy

I found the Fedora install to be effortless.


18 posted on 12/31/2016 9:52:56 AM PST by GingisK
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To: dayglored

For everyone missing windows 7, or those who don’t have a physical CD to install form or who have l ost their windows recover CD- you can still download the .ISO but you have to enter some java script code on the following site in your developer console (in firefox the key to get that is F-12) in order to get the drop down list to include windows 7- i would suggest downloadign it and burnign it to disk- You will need a valid liscence windows key to put in once you install it- it does work-

You’ll have to follow instructions on the following site- but it does work-

Scroll down until you see a big blue photo of the various versions of windows listed for download- that is the post you want to follow- it lists all the steps and gives thel ink to microsoft site for the download i beleive-

http://superuser.com/questions/78761/where-can-i-download-windows-7-legally-from-microsoft

Bookmark the site too- as you may need it again at some point-


19 posted on 12/31/2016 9:55:35 AM PST by Bob434
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To: dayglored

Meanwhile, MS seems to never have heard of tabbing Windows Explorer. Or allowing you to “color code” file names.


20 posted on 12/31/2016 9:57:45 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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