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Committee picks Alabama, Washington, Ohio State and Clemson
AP ^ | Dec. 4, 2016 | RALPH D. RUSSO

Posted on 12/04/2016 10:52:53 AM PST by PROCON

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To: achilles2000

If you hadn’t noticed 2 years ago when the teams met and OSU won the talent gap was closed, and since then OSU and AL have been the big winners in the Recruiting battles. This year’s Buckeye squad is one of youngest in the country with another top class coming in next year. Secondly, OSU is more battle tested at this point in the season by having competed against more higher ranked teams than AL.


121 posted on 12/04/2016 7:38:24 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike ('You can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.")
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To: CommerceComet

So again tell me who won the Big 12 in 2014? And how many losses did they have?


122 posted on 12/04/2016 7:42:58 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike ('You can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.")
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To: Hotlanta Mike
So again tell me who won the Big 12 in 2014? And how many losses did they have?

TCU and Baylor were co-champions because there was no championship game. I don't know why this was so confusing to the committee. If they wanted to create their own tie-breaker, nothing would have prevented that. I'm sure that the committee would have adopted the same standard that the Big 12 now uses: head-on-head results. For the committee to make this a deal-breaker because it was some form of unresolvable dilemma was disingenuous. Each team had one loss.

123 posted on 12/04/2016 7:58:15 PM PST by CommerceComet (Hillary: A unique blend of incompetence and corruption.)
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To: CommerceComet

I guess I should have defined “tiers” more carefully.;-) Probably the top 3 in the SEC East and top 4 or 5 in the SEC West could beat Washington. Some consistently, and, perhaps, some not. Even the teams below that would make short work of most of the PAC 12. There are high school teams in PA and Texas that might give the Ducks and the Wildcats a run for their money. And, yes, Auburn is better than Washington. The Washington wins in the PAC 12 this year were for the most part like playing the Little Sisters of Mercy. USC beat Washington like a rented mule, and would do better in the BCS than Washington. Washington wouldn’t fare well in the Big 10, either. ...Sports talk is such a dissipation of time ;-)


124 posted on 12/04/2016 8:13:54 PM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: petitfour

Yes, I think is doing a good job for a true freshman, but he needs a couple of years to develop before we can see how good he really is. Sometimes I think Saban doesn’t recruit at QB just to keep things interesting...and Saban could recruit a star for that position.


125 posted on 12/04/2016 8:17:59 PM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Alabama beat more teams that had been ranked. The difficulty was that SEC teams fall in the rankings as they beat each other. I think very few people would say that OSU has as much talent as Alabama this year. BUT, Alabama lacks a real QB, and OSU’s is excellent. Alabama can be beaten if the rest of the team doesn’t bring its A game because Hurts just hasn’t had time to develop. I know why Washington and Clemson are in the top 4, but I don’t think either team could beat Michigan, and maybe not even PSU given the way PSU has been playing the last few weeks.


126 posted on 12/04/2016 8:23:32 PM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: VideoDoctor

Alabama will beat Washington 34 to 10.. or 41 to 17.
I’d also predict that Clemson will run Ohio State


1. No way Washington holds Alabama under 50. I’ll say 56-17 Alabama.
2. Ohio State-Clemson - 28-23 Ohio State.

Overtime and Ohio State wins - but the Tide will roll
38-24. The oddsmakers/bettors still underestimate Alabama.

I’m an Ohio State fan and saw Coach Meyer almost lose the game in the first half by calling a fake punt vs. Michigan that got stuffed. Trying that vs. Alabama, unless in 4th quarter will be suicidal. Even then, just go for it if you need it.


127 posted on 12/04/2016 8:28:44 PM PST by bIlluminati (Who is Horatio Bunce?)
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To: achilles2000

The Washington-Alabama game will be a lot closer than the oddsmakers think. Alabama’s running game will struggle against Washington’s Defensive Line. They will have to rely more on their freshman QB than in previous games.

Bama must get pressure on Washingtons QB or he can pick them apart. They need to contain Washington’s overlooked run game as well.

Like Saban, Chris Petersen the Husky coach has a great record when he has had a few weeks to prepare for an opponent: going back to his Boise State days. Alabama will likely prevail but it will be a lot closer than than 14 points!


128 posted on 12/04/2016 8:51:13 PM PST by dsm69 (Boycott News Media/Hollywood Advertisers)
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To: achilles2000

What most people here that do not follow the SEC closely don’t realized is the depth of Alabama.

The starters for Alabama are maybe #2 in the county.

But if Alabama’s second string was it’s own team, they’d be around #8.

Add it up, and I don’t see a possibility of them losing unless they have 6 turnovers.

OSU will be real happy in the first half...and wonder what hit ‘em in the second.


129 posted on 12/04/2016 8:53:44 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: babble-on

Come on that’s really a cheap shot. They played well and don’t have any ties to what went before. Shame on you to want to belittle a fine team.


130 posted on 12/04/2016 8:57:58 PM PST by Empireoftheatom48 (God help the Republic but will he?)
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To: ealgeone

Teams that lose twice shouldn’t get in.


131 posted on 12/04/2016 8:58:09 PM PST by Luke21
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To: tomkat

In the old days the press voted for their favorite teams. The committee is at least made up of people who watch games and don’t blindly cheerlead.

You apparently want a return to 1990, where Colorado won the title with a loss, a tie, a phantom fifth down, and calling back their opponent’s winning TD in the Orange Bowl? The Asspress voted them number one. The same Asspress that routinely lies about politics.


132 posted on 12/04/2016 9:01:59 PM PST by Luke21
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To: PROCON

“As a Washington fan, I look forward to playing a great Alabama team.”

Should be a great game. I can’t wait.


133 posted on 12/04/2016 11:04:07 PM PST by CrimsonTidegirl (Deplorable and loving it.)
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To: bobk333

“Alabama, for example, played Kent State, Chattanooga and Western Kentucky.”

We also played USC.


134 posted on 12/04/2016 11:07:55 PM PST by CrimsonTidegirl (Deplorable and loving it.)
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To: lodi90

“OTOH, The Pac-12 has a traditional game with Notre Dame in November.”

Notre Dame, lol. I daresay that Chattanooga could beat this year’s dreadful Notre Dame team. I’m serious.


135 posted on 12/04/2016 11:15:25 PM PST by CrimsonTidegirl (Deplorable and loving it.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

“That’s what y’all were saying 2 years ago against Ohio State with their 3rd string QB.”

I’m not surprised we lost that game. We overachieved to make it that far and our defense was our worst in the Saban era.

Our defense was so suspect that we looked like a Big 12 or a Pac 12 defense.


136 posted on 12/04/2016 11:18:11 PM PST by CrimsonTidegirl (Deplorable and loving it.)
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To: GOPe Means Bend Over Spell Run

“Sounds like a Alabama fan that does not want to play OSU.

The Ohio State University is the best team in the country and will prove it when the play Alabama for the national championship.”

Bring it. I hope we get to play OSU.


137 posted on 12/04/2016 11:20:01 PM PST by CrimsonTidegirl (Deplorable and loving it.)
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To: pinkandgreenmom

“Just yesterday, my husband and I were on a cruise and were wearing our Clemson shirts. We walked by a group wearing Alabama shirts and they booed at us. Loudly.”

As an Alabama fan, I apologize. I don’t trash talk unless someone else starts something. Then, it’s on:)


138 posted on 12/04/2016 11:23:37 PM PST by CrimsonTidegirl (Deplorable and loving it.)
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To: petitfour

“You are so right. Hurts is nothing special. He just turned 18 in August. It will take a few years of development before he is ready for any championships.”

Good comeback:) It amuses me when opposing fans denigrate Hurts’ abilities.

After all, he’s only one of the most promising, exciting True Freshmen QB’s this year.


139 posted on 12/04/2016 11:31:45 PM PST by CrimsonTidegirl (Deplorable and loving it.)
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To: PROCON; campaignPete R-CT

I’d have put Ohio State at #4, if I had them in at all.


140 posted on 12/04/2016 11:50:12 PM PST by Impy (Toni Preckwinkle for Ambassador to the Sun)
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