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Nine clubbers are killed and another 13 are still missing after massive fire breaks out [tr]
Dailymail.com.uk ^ | December 3, 2016 | Jenny Stanton

Posted on 12/03/2016 6:49:19 AM PST by BlueStateRightist

Full title of article: Nine clubbers are killed and another 13 are still missing after massive fire breaks out on the second floor of a 100-person rave inside an Oakland warehouse

At least nine people died in a massive fire that destroyed a northern California warehouse during a party early Saturday morning, officials said.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: california; fire; firecodeviolation; massdeath; nightclub; oakland; rave
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To: KC Burke

Ding! We have a winner!

Used to be in the same world on the engineering side, know enough about the life safety stuff to have a clue. You’ve nailed the likely root cause issues.


21 posted on 12/03/2016 7:35:58 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: KC Burke; Flash Bazbeaux

And Flash’s post would seem to verify your supposition.


22 posted on 12/03/2016 7:38:18 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: CGASMIA68

They certainly look like an “out there” group of people, but dying in a fire is an awful way to go.


23 posted on 12/03/2016 7:39:02 AM PST by PLMerite (Lord, let me die fighting lions. Amen.)
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To: BlueStateRightist

So, the place had no sprinklers, and apparently no working smoke alarms.

In prison-state California, was this an illegal operation?


24 posted on 12/03/2016 7:40:09 AM PST by PLMerite (Lord, let me die fighting lions. Amen.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

And one chewed his arm off rather than wake her...


25 posted on 12/03/2016 7:43:44 AM PST by null and void ( If you defy federal law, we deny federal funds.)
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To: BlueStateRightist

apparently, 1307 31st Avenue (near International Blvd.).

Google street view shows wood furniture and sculpture in the (closed) front metal roll-up entranceways.

100% silk and golden donna facebook entries do not appear to show any information relevant to the rave.

This video gives a flavor of the neighborhood (slow down, clyde carson ft. the team):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJdqw-JzW08


26 posted on 12/03/2016 7:44:52 AM PST by SteveH
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To: PLMerite
They certainly look like an “out there” group of people,

They look like a typical cross-section of the people who hung out at my house in San Jose...

27 posted on 12/03/2016 7:49:40 AM PST by null and void ( If you defy federal law, we deny federal funds.)
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To: CGASMIA68

From the pictures it appears they are all Democrats.


28 posted on 12/03/2016 7:50:20 AM PST by Towed_Jumper (I'm not homophobic --I'm homonauseated.)
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To: BlueStateRightist

Will be interesting to compare the national media coverage of this fire vs. the Gatlinburg fire last week.


29 posted on 12/03/2016 7:52:01 AM PST by Rebelbase (Gatlinburg wildfire: over 1000 homes and business damaged or destroyed.)
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To: BlueStateRightist

Most people will walk by numerous marked exits to go out the door they entered.

These types of incidents can be traced back to chained exits, lack of situational awareness, and intoxication. Sometimes you get the pyrotechnics coupled with highly flammable wall coverings like the”Station” fire with White Snake.

It still boils down to lack of situational awareness.


30 posted on 12/03/2016 7:54:17 AM PST by Clay Moore (JRandomFreeper, SWAMPSNIPER RIP)
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To: Flash Bazbeaux

Interesting


31 posted on 12/03/2016 7:55:16 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: mware

Not only does the Daily Mail scoop US news, it provides context and detail instantaneously. Those poor people. As I look at them, I cannot help but wonder what formed their humanity, their interests, their presence, their thinking. And I do not mean that in a disparaging way; it is only that they are so different from what I see and know. I suppose the fact that we are all God’s children is explanation enough.


32 posted on 12/03/2016 7:55:58 AM PST by yetidog
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To: CGASMIA68

So many of them look......damned.


33 posted on 12/03/2016 8:03:11 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BlueStateRightist

9 dead and 25 unaccounted for at this point, per KTVU.

http://www.ktvu.com/breaking-news/221282720-story

Used to live in Oakland, down by Lake Merritt when I was a kid.


34 posted on 12/03/2016 8:05:50 AM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Rebelbase

Dead are liberals and Hippies.


35 posted on 12/03/2016 8:09:05 AM PST by jennychase
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To: PLMerite

You would think people would see the irony of the attraction of raves. Because part of the appeal is that they are in dangerous and unsavory places, those who were coddled in their cotton batting worlds are drawn to them for the excitement and illicit pleasure of living on the edge away from authoritarian control.

Liberals are tweaked and they like being that way.

Prayers up for those who lost their lives so terribly.


36 posted on 12/03/2016 8:13:21 AM PST by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: BlueStateRightist

East Bay Times article link

Oakland: at least nine dead after massive fire at live-work space party

By Harry Harris | hharris@bayareanewsgroup.com, Malaika Fraley | mfraley@bayareanewsgroup.com and Matthias Gafni | mgafni@bayareanewsgroup.com
PUBLISHED: December 3, 2016 at 4:14 am | UPDATED: December 3, 2016 at 7:59 am

http://www.eastbaytimes.com/2016/12/03/oakland-massive-fire-at-live-work-space-in-fruitvale-district/

live-work space is explicitly prohibited by San Francisco codes (in view of this accident, probably a good idea).

facebook event link

DEC 2
Golden Donna 100% Silk 2016 West Coast Tour

https://m.facebook.com/events/594396784086012/

(25 currently missing; list is actively being updated now)


37 posted on 12/03/2016 8:15:44 AM PST by SteveH
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To: CGASMIA68

Ugh, you’re right. A bunch of freaks. I’d bet money a good percent are “missing” just for the attention.

Was it a gay club or what?


38 posted on 12/03/2016 8:22:07 AM PST by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: BlueStateRightist

Rave on, it’s a crazy feeling...


39 posted on 12/03/2016 8:22:41 AM PST by OrangeHoof (Get used to it - President Donald J. Trump)
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To: Flash Bazbeaux

That was prophetic.


40 posted on 12/03/2016 8:24:19 AM PST by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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