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Need Android help
vanity | 11/08/2016 | chuckles

Posted on 11/07/2016 10:27:17 PM PST by chuckles

I know it's voting day and I won't watch this post as well as I usually do, but I have a Samsung Tablet 10.1 gt p7510 that I want to update the OS to at least 4.1. it has 4.01 on it now. I cannot download the Directv app to watch programs on it because you must have at least 4.1 to make it work.

I've watched a dozen "rooting" video's on Youtube, some multiple times, but I don't speak Linux or Android. If someone could write a specific tutorial on what apps are needed and what they do and where they are installed, I would be most grateful. Things like what app backs up what I have now and where does it put it, and if I brick the thing, how do I get back to the backup to start over? What program installs the new OS and where does it need to be, the PC or the tablet memory? I have an app installed called "Rom Manager" but there is ZERO instructions on how to use it. I have Odin3 installed on my PC, but it also seems to come up on the tablet when I put it in download mode. I don't know what box to check and how to get the OS to appear beside the checked box.

I will check periodically to see if anyone posts here or has questions, but it might be awhile if I'm throwing things at the TV. Also my spelling suffers while I'm drinking.

Maybe it won't be a long day.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Miscellaneous; Science
KEYWORDS: android; operatingsystem; samsung; upgrading

1 posted on 11/07/2016 10:27:17 PM PST by chuckles
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To: chuckles
How to root Samsung Tablet 10.1 gt p7510
2 posted on 11/07/2016 10:36:10 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: chuckles

Is there a 4.1 custom (and stable) ROM available for your exact model tablet? Otherwise, you’re wasting your time rooting.


3 posted on 11/07/2016 10:38:54 PM PST by MountainWalker
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Been to that exact page for a couple of weeks now watching vids and reading posts. They all act like I’m supposed to be a Linux guru. I’m pretty sure I can get it rooted, but what then? I want it backed up,...I want to know where the backup is,...and I want to know how to get the backup restored before I even start to do this.


4 posted on 11/07/2016 10:45:17 PM PST by chuckles
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To: chuckles

Told my wife I might root my LS Stylus 2 and she freaked so I didn’t. Apparently that can break it and void warranty. Maybe when it gets dated. I recently bought it.


5 posted on 11/07/2016 10:50:51 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: ThunderSleeps; chuckles

Ping for Android list help.


6 posted on 11/07/2016 11:12:53 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker; shibumi
Electric Sheep ping

Sorry...if I don't keep laughing, I might start screaming...

7 posted on 11/07/2016 11:21:19 PM PST by Salamander (With the lights out, it's less dangerous...)
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To: MountainWalker
The web is full of custom Roms for this tablet. Of course none of them are guaranteed to work, especially without bugs. There are many that have several kudo's that they work fine, but you know how that goes. The Tablet is old enough now that it doesn't really fit what I want to do with it anymore. I figure if I can swap OS's, I can always go back to the original providing I can understand exactly how they work.

I've built Intel boxes since the 286 in 1984 and MS3.1, but I have NEVER been able to understand the architecture of Linux. It's like it came from Mars and I have to make it work. Everyone seems to think I should know what a tar ball is and which partition to put it in. I have loaded dozens of machines with Linux of all stripes and I can always get to the desktop and say,....What now? I can't even update Firefox to the latest version with it right there in the browser window. Why can't they just have a file named Android 4.1.exe and you double click it and go to the bathroom and come back with an updated machine? No, you need the proper version of Debian or Suse to fit an OS named Mint or Ubuntu, and the right program to extract the file and then it won't go to the place it's supposed to go. I feel like that movie with Adam Sandler golfing, where he hits the ball with a hockey stick and hollers "GO HOME, GO HOME", and it just won't go.

8 posted on 11/07/2016 11:29:55 PM PST by chuckles
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To: Salamander

You drive me batty when you act like such a pris.

9 posted on 11/08/2016 12:00:08 AM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: shibumi
Of course I do...
10 posted on 11/08/2016 12:04:16 AM PST by Salamander (With the lights out, it's less dangerous...)
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To: chuckles
So,you're gonna root (re-image) your tablet while under the influence on one of the most historic and distracting days in recent memory? What could possibly go wrong?

FIRST! Forget about Linux. "One Click" and "Odin3" are Windows .exe files. Don't let the 'untu fanboys drag you off into the weeds.
When you see "tar" anything think zip file.
I have loaded dozens of machines with Linux of all stripes and I can always get to the desktop and say,....What now?
Are you sure you were at the desktop? Bill Gates and I parted company at Windows 98 and I've been using Linux (Slackware and PCLOS) for almost 20 years. I really don't understand that statement.

11 posted on 11/08/2016 2:23:11 AM PST by SanchoP (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. J.F.K)
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To: chuckles

Hit Google speech button and say Lumos


12 posted on 11/08/2016 2:25:02 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: chuckles

Watching this thread too.


13 posted on 11/08/2016 2:37:09 AM PST by OldNewYork (Operation Wetback II, now with computers)
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To: OldNewYork

This may already be my new favorite FR tech support thread.


14 posted on 11/08/2016 3:08:33 AM PST by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: chuckles

chuckles? Like the clown?


15 posted on 11/08/2016 3:10:43 AM PST by Paladin2 (auto spelchk? BWAhaha2haaa.....I aint't likely fixin' nuttin'. Blame it on the Bossa Nova...)
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To: chuckles

Good morning chuckles. I recently started having trouble with slow wifi connectivity on my 10.1. I took it to the Samsung desk at Best Buy and the tech said the only thing left to do was a factory reset - sometimes the software got ‘confused’. I did this and it was updated to 4.1.2, which was newer than the software that was on it.


16 posted on 11/08/2016 3:30:30 AM PST by nicolezmomma
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To: chuckles

If you can’t take the HD equivalent out and swap it back and forth, don’t mess with it. Fool around with Android versions in Virtual Boxes on a desktop.


17 posted on 11/08/2016 5:22:39 AM PST by Paladin2 (auto spelchk? BWAhaha2haaa.....I aint't likely fixin' nuttin'. Blame it on the Bossa Nova...)
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To: chuckles

It’s not a “rooting” issue as such. You need to have a supported version of the software at the version you need - either by the manufacturer or possibly from http://www.cyanogenmod.org/ . If you can’t find the version required you’ll need a new device.


18 posted on 11/08/2016 6:00:44 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: chuckles

I’ve personally rooted many devices, and I’m not a Linux guy. Normally, if you can use a one-click rooting app, then that’s the way to go. The key is not to be afraid of the process. Rooting is just the first step. Then, you need to load the updated firmware.

Otherwise, I suggest simply ask a 16-year-old boy if he knows anyone who is capable of doing it. Most techie boys that age aren’t afraid to tackle it and could get it done in no time by following online instructions.


19 posted on 11/08/2016 6:27:51 AM PST by indyman777
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Ping to the top. I'm pretty sure I can get it rooted. It's the other stuff that scares me. When you start to see commands like erase the cache and a couple of other things involved with wiping your SD card, I need to know what is right and wrong. I need a backup I know I can find because it looks like the backup would be on my SD card. Then I have to take an image from my PC and get it to my tablet and put it somewhere. Probably again the internal memory of the tablet.What program does what?

Reading some of the sites that do this you see that they even can overclock the tablet and give new capabilities to it without throwing it away. What we are doing here is trying to upgrade the tablet without throwing it out for a new one. Samsung has quit upgrading to get people to buy a new one every couple of years. Most of the sites talk about upgrading their phones to new operating systems and their phone is suddenly better.

I don't know if people notice, but after awhile, their "new" phone starts slowing down and getting more "glitchy" as time goes on, until you finally get disgusted and buy a new phone. Chances are what they are asking the phone to do could be done, but only with a new OS.

The OS my tablet has won't overclock, but getting the OS a couple of numbers higher allows a 1.2 ghz to 1.4 ghz turbo upgrade. Certain camera chips can be ungraded to higher megapixels, ect. The phone or tablet you have has usually been hobbled with software, not the hardware, and you might stretch the useful life of the device by years if you are able to change the OS yourself. It was well known the first Samsung tabs had higher capability that the original software gave it. Just like my desktop had a 3.2 ghz dual core chip and a limit of 2 gigs of memory, I have overclocked it to 3.8 ghz and reflashed the Bios to accept 3 gigs of memory. The BIOS image was modified by 3rd party people. You can put 4 gigs in it and it recognizes it, but it only will use 3 gigs. That allows me to keep an almost 20 year old MB and run even Windows 10 if I choose to. I have an I3 and an I5 laptop and the desktop is just as fast for what I do. I'm still on 7 just because I don't like 10. I think many of the 2-3 yo phones are thrown away that could be upgraded to the newest OS and extend their usefulness. many of the newest features, people could live without, like fingerprint security, a new camera from 10 megapixel to a 20 megapixel. What difference in the real world are we talking about? If you have the money,...great, but many would just as soon keep their old phone if it would just run faster and do what it did when it was new.

20 posted on 11/08/2016 7:33:55 AM PST by chuckles
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