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Turn in TDI Diesel or Wait Until After Election? If Trade, What to Buy?
chickensoup | 10.24.16 | chickensoup

Posted on 10/24/2016 1:53:54 PM PDT by Chickensoup

I have a 2013 Golf TDI Diesel that I have a strong option to give back to Volkswagen.

I have been waiting for the election because I have a feeling that Clinton will continue the leftist policies of crawling up gas prices.

However, I have been looking for a car, just in case. My goodness!

Everything out there is chock full of electronics that will make them obsolete soon.

Everything out there looks like a shiny, overgrown bug.

I think I need something a bit more more butch-looking.

I look longingly at jeep wranglers, but I am told that they are unreliable and break big things like transmissions.

I probably should have four wheel or all wheel drive. Because I live on the snow belt, at the end of a half mile drive way. Although the golf did navigate well.

I have looked at the so called SUVs, and they are just cars, none have a truck frame or the ruggedness I had with my old 90's SUVs.

Is there a vehicle out there that is moderately comfortable, good mileage, little to no electronics, and durable?

Not something that I am expected to work on, because aside from playing with the distributor cap on my old MGB, I try to stay out of from under the hood. I just found out there are no more distributor caps. Shocking!

What is a chickensoup to do?


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To: Chickensoup

nobody buys a first year model, they are unproven.

Seems you are just immune to good advice!

I wash my hands of you/your thread


41 posted on 10/24/2016 2:27:14 PM PDT by RBStealth
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To: Fai Mao

looked at it, could not get a shot of the interior.


42 posted on 10/24/2016 2:35:02 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian governments are the biggest killer of citizens in the world.)
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To: PAR35

Speaking of EMP, I’ve recently learned that someone has engineered a very successful diesel swap for classic GMC motorhomes, utilizing the AM General 6.5 liter military spec engine used in Humvees. He’s mating it to a re-engineered, TH425 transmission originally used in the 1st ten Toronado, but with a revived “switch pitch” converter that yields a much better torque curve as well as better highway MPG.

I’ve always admired those old things, still beautiful 40 years later. Have been toying with the idea of living full time in an RV for cost benefit and mobility. Not so much cost benefit as far as purchase cost with the diesel upfit, though. Requires a new frame, engine and trans are installed, then body lowered onto the new frame.

Estimates are around $40K for the unfit, plus the cost of a decent GMC coach (I prefer the Royale with the “center kitchen” layout), running in the $10K range for a well-kept, cosmetically decent one with systems updated, but with engine problems on the original 455 V8, transmission problems or both. So, figure sub-60K, about half what a roughly comparable new diesel RV motorhome would run, military spec drivetrain, zilch for sophisticated electronics elsewhere unless added later, way cooler looking too.

http://www.mannystransmission.biz/products/


43 posted on 10/24/2016 2:35:08 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Chickensoup
I liked the old Subs that had a color on the top and the grey protective panels on the bottom.

1st gen Outback.

44 posted on 10/24/2016 2:36:25 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Chickensoup

I’ve had a couple of Jeep Patriots and been satisfied with them except that they’re a little less soundproofed than the more costly models. But I can live with a little noise; keeps me awake!

And they pi$$ off liberals, with that P word.


45 posted on 10/24/2016 2:37:36 PM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: Chickensoup

just saw this story on reliability:

Consumer Reports: All-new cars have more problems

Of the bottom 7, 5 are Fiat-Chrysler-Jeep products. (The other two at the bottom are Tesla and GMC).
http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/24/autos/consumer-reports-auto-dependability/index.html

Subaru seems to be moving strongly the wrong direction.


46 posted on 10/24/2016 2:39:08 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Chickensoup

No I think it was the second year. or third.

Go ahead.

Leave me to die

alone

in the rain.


47 posted on 10/24/2016 2:41:06 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian governments are the biggest killer of citizens in the world.)
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To: Chickensoup

Get an old CJ ;)


48 posted on 10/24/2016 2:48:13 PM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: Mad Dawgg

49 posted on 10/24/2016 2:49:09 PM PDT by lacrew
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To: Chickensoup
If you're worrying about fuel prices for your car you're being had by the lunatic left.

Consider: if you drive 12,000 miles a year and get 25 miles to the gallon, that means you buy 480 gallons a year.

Now you're not going to get your fuel for free, so let's guess that fuel could go up a dollar a gallon. That's $480 dollars a year.

My Social Security taxes EVERY MONTH are more than that. NY State didn't have a sales tax when I bought my first car. Now it's 8.75% where I grew up, which in most cases is more than the profit the company that produced whatever one buys made on that item. But I left NY and started working in NJ when there was NO income tax here. Now I pay something around that $480 EVERY MONTH for NJ income tax and get nothing more than when I paid ZERO.

Think of how a magician deceives people by directing their attention away from wherever the rabbit comes from. The Left uses fuel prices in a similar manner. Government is most working people's largest expense.

Drive what you like driving.

ML/NJ

50 posted on 10/24/2016 2:51:48 PM PDT by ml/nj (quotequote)
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To: Chickensoup

Had a 2008 Subaru but a hail storm beat the crap out of it and had to totaled it. If you get a used Subaru look over the headlights real close as they crack very easy in the corners. Also the liner under the wipers can crack. Was a good car for Colorado Snow.
Don


51 posted on 10/24/2016 2:54:49 PM PDT by Don_Ret_USAF ("No Government can survive Without The Trust Of The People.")
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To: Chickensoup

Jeep and reliability didn’t go in the same sentence a whole lot.

A few months back, I was in a parts house getting some electrical stuff for a jeep. The guy there said he has sold a lot of replacement electrical stuff for jeeps lately.

It was modern era stuff. Mine is from 1965. He thought it was funny. I’m having to custom make wiring on this one as I go.


52 posted on 10/24/2016 2:54:51 PM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: Chickensoup

If there is one thing I know it is that I do better with the vehicle I like — I put up with issues, better. I enjoy what I enjoy.

Get a hard top Wrangler and enjoy it.


53 posted on 10/24/2016 2:57:11 PM PDT by KC Burke (Consider all of my posts as first drafts. (Apologies to L. Niven))
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To: 2CAVTrooper

Did not...owned one....if it got wet you didn’t care as it only had floor mats. The rocker panels actually rusted out, which is dumb considering you could pull huge plastic plugs and see into them so why they didn’t spray the insides with preventative was an engineering failure.


54 posted on 10/24/2016 3:01:55 PM PDT by databoss
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To: ConservativeMind

I will second the Subaru suggestion. Mine was great in snow and mud less than the clearance of the vehicle. I would be out when only the “big trucks” were moving. I got well over 250,000 miles out of that car and it was not lovingly maintained.


55 posted on 10/24/2016 3:15:22 PM PDT by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything)
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To: ml/nj

Ok I drive 25 plus per year so at 3 dollars a gallon at 25mpg it is 3000 per year. Each additional dollar it goes up is an extra 1000 dollars per year. So if costs go up two dollars that is a fuel cost of 5000 per year.


56 posted on 10/24/2016 3:20:17 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian governments are the biggest killer of citizens in the world.)
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To: SgtBob

My ‘05. Jeep Wrangler has Zero problems.
Perhaps the 47k mi. May have something to do with it,,,
What’s it Worth?


57 posted on 10/24/2016 3:21:23 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Chickensoup

I have a TDI but I am in a no-test state (FL) and I am strongly debating keeping mine. My question to you is about the airbag from Takata, which you say will not be replaced (If I understand your posting!) Where is the source of your information?

My understanding is that the owner has the option of taking the buy-back (car will be trashed) or keeping the car and getting a cash payment. As I understand the legalities, if I keep the car, the Takata airbag will be replaced at no cost to me under the entirely separate Takata recall.


58 posted on 10/24/2016 3:22:54 PM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: SES1066

Spoke to VW. There is no fix for the Takata airbag and they are not doing much about it. They are waiting for Takata and Takata is not doing much. Essentially they told me that there is not a fix, when there is a fix the southern states will bet it first, and they have no idea whether this will happen.


59 posted on 10/24/2016 3:32:10 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian governments are the biggest killer of citizens in the world.)
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To: Chickensoup
It isn't close to $3 a gallon now. You're probably getting more than 25 miles per gallon. And if you really drive 25,000 miles a year I'm guessing the majority of them are a business expense. Stop whining and pay attention to all those politicians who live in a significantly bigger house than you do (and usually own two or three).

ML/NJ

60 posted on 10/24/2016 3:42:39 PM PDT by ml/nj (quotequote)
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