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Debate over: IBM confirms that Macs are $535 less expensive than PCs
Jamf Conference ^ | October 19, 2016 | By Jeni Asaba

Posted on 10/20/2016 12:42:26 PM PDT by Swordmaker


Attendees arrived early to the Guthrie this morning to claim seats for the most anticipated session at the Jamf Nation User Conference (JNUC). And they weren’t disappointed. In a passionate presentation from industry leaders in enterprise, education and healthcare, attendees learned how they too can achieve unprecedented success in their own environments.

User choice at IBM
Fletcher Previn, VP of Workplace as a Service at IBM, started the discussion by sharing what they’ve done to transform company culture for the 400,000+ employees who span across IBM’s 2,800 locations. It started with user choice.

In 2015, IBM let their employees decide – Windows or Mac. “The goal was to deliver a great employee choice program and strive to achieve the best Mac program,” Previn said. An emerging favorite meant the deployment of 30,000 Macs over the course of the year. But that number has grown. With more employees choosing Mac than ever before, the company now has 90,000 deployed (with only five admins supporting them), making it the largest Mac deployment on earth.

But isn’t it expensive, and doesn’t it overload IT? No. IBM found that not only do PCs drive twice the amount of support calls, they’re also three times more expensive. That’s right, depending on the model, IBM is saving anywhere from $273 - $543 per Mac compared to a PC, over a four-year lifespan. “And this reflects the best pricing we’ve ever gotten from Microsoft,” Previn said. Multiply that number by the 100,000+ Macs IBM expects to have deployed by the end of the year, and we’re talking some serious savings.

Needless to say, the employees at IBM got it right. And with 73% of them saying they want their next computer to be a Mac, the success will only increase with time.

To help maintain the demand for Macs in the workplace, and the 1,300 new Macs deployed each week, IBM adopted Jamf to leverage Apple’s Device Enrollment Program (DEP) for zero-touch deployment, which is critical given 40% of their workforce is remote. Employees receive a consumer experience from the moment they receive their Mac, which continues with a Workstation Asset Management Tool and a re-designed intranet, providing employees with an Apple-like, self-help experience. Not only do these additions drive self-sufficiency among employees, but they also help create confidence with the product.

“The shortest distance to engaging employees is by what’s in their hand or what’s on their desk,” Previn said. He was right. Year over year, IBM has seen a drastic increase in their employee engagement scores. In fact, “Better Tools” was cited as the number one driver for the overall improvement.

Previn ended the session with a fact worth noting. “Every Mac we buy is in fact continuing to make and save IBM money.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: applepinglist; ibm; totalcostofowning
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1 posted on 10/20/2016 12:42:26 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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To: Swordmaker

Is it a consensus?


2 posted on 10/20/2016 12:45:39 PM PDT by the_daug
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To: Swordmaker

That was unexpected. No, really. :-)


3 posted on 10/20/2016 12:46:06 PM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: Swordmaker
That’s right, depending on the model, IBM is saving anywhere from $273 - $543 per Mac compared to a PC..."

So IBM has no idea what a PC should cost then. Somehow I'm not surprised.

4 posted on 10/20/2016 12:47:04 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie (ui)
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To: dayglored; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; 5thGenTexan; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; ...
After moving a quarter of its worldwide employee base of almost 400,000 to Mac computers, IBM has found that Macs are indeed less expensive to own than Windows PCs. . . by a range of $273 to $543 depending on the type of computer. Most surprising is that the installed base of more than 90,000 Macs is being maintained by just FIVE IT admins! — PING!


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5 posted on 10/20/2016 12:48:22 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: pepsi_junkie
So IBM has no idea what a PC should cost then. Somehow I'm not surprised.

Of course they do. IBM runs almost more than 270,000 Windows PCs compared to more than 90,000 Apple Macs, the largest installed base of Macs in the world. . . so who, better than IBM, is in a more informed position to know the cost of owning, supporting and operating both over time? This is based on real world data. When those 90,000 Macs can be supported by just five IT guys, that says a LOT about cost savings compared to what it takes to support Windows.

6 posted on 10/20/2016 12:52:36 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

so why aren’t they 50 points ahead then you might ask?


7 posted on 10/20/2016 12:56:49 PM PDT by bigbob (The Hillary indictment will have to come from us.)
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To: Swordmaker

I’m a director of IT for a smallish SE corporation. We build all of our PC’s in house and they cost a fraction of what a Mac would cost. Because we choose exactly what components we use we end up with “very” reliable PC’s.

If you buy crappy computers built with cheap parts you are going to have problems.


8 posted on 10/20/2016 12:56:52 PM PDT by MichaelRDanger
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To: Swordmaker

so, is a Mac easy to learn?...I need a new laptop.


9 posted on 10/20/2016 12:56:55 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry
so, is a Mac easy to learn?...I need a new laptop.

My wife, who is VERY non-computer literate, moved from her Lenovo Laptop to her Macbook Pro in about a day.

At first I got a lot of "how do I..." but when my answers started with "how would you like to do that?" she caught on. Macs are more intuitive than Windows machines, plus a lot of the same type of concepts are the same between the two platforms.

10 posted on 10/20/2016 1:09:51 PM PDT by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: Swordmaker

It’s not hardware cost. This is a TCO analysis, total cost of ownership.
Not easy to do.
I can see Macs costing less re support costs. Just consider what a mess it is keeping Windows machines patched. This is a regular ongoing source of OS and application failures. If you have a patch schedule you know that your heaviest trouble rate is the week after patch day.

Conversely, Windows machines tend to run an application menagerie way beyond what the Mac users do- normally vanilla office apps, for most scenarios. With a very few exceptions.

This application problem is why a large company will have considerable numbers of Win 7, XP, even 95 and DOS machines around - porting something weird is often difficult or expensive, and that sort of stuff is far more common on Windows.


11 posted on 10/20/2016 1:17:50 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: MichaelRDanger

Oh, now you did it! Injecting facts and logic in a Windows V. Mac flamewar!
How do you sleep at night?!

=^)

CC


12 posted on 10/20/2016 1:20:44 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (CC: purveyor of cryptic, snarky posts since December, 2000..)
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To: MichaelRDanger

It isn’t just cheap components. It’s the operating system that sucks more. The windows one is far less stable and is more vulnerable than the apple one.
But of course, you are one of the 2% that only use linux and everyone there instantly took to it seamlessly.


13 posted on 10/20/2016 1:22:40 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Novermber 8th. AMERICA'S BREXIT!)
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To: Swordmaker

Give it up, will ya.


14 posted on 10/20/2016 1:23:40 PM PDT by McGruff (Time for a Tea Party II)
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To: Swordmaker

“Macs are indeed less expensive to own than Windows PCs. . . by a range of $273 to $543 depending on the type of computer”

No Sh*it?

PCs are indeed less expensive to own than Macs. . . by a range of $273 to $1000 depending on the type of PC.


15 posted on 10/20/2016 1:24:35 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: buwaya

“an application menagerie way beyond what the Mac users do”

My how condescending of you!

This Mac user has a WIDE variety of applications on his Mac, including a copy of Windows 7 he runs under VMWare Fusion. In fact, I have two flavors of Windows and a Unix distro on my Mac right now.

How many operating systems can your Windows box run...simultaneously?


16 posted on 10/20/2016 1:24:53 PM PDT by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: cherry

I do a great deal of computer consulting and the Mac is a good, stable platform. It’s easy to use.

You can always install Windows 7 or 8.1 inside the mac via Parallels software (I do this very thing). You DO need at least 8 GB RAM, though.

The clients I shift over to Mac are very happy and do not call much at all...

FYI, Apple has a wonderful refurbished site (as new factory warranty) you might look there:
http://www.apple.com/shop/browse/home/specialdeals/mac

PS Don’t overlook the Mac Mini - it’s a gem!

Best!


17 posted on 10/20/2016 1:26:52 PM PDT by BBB333 (Q: Which is grammatically correct? Joe Biden IS or Joe Biden ARE an idiot?)
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To: Crusher138

I could make a much cheaper computer and install the Apple OS on it, but that would be illegal. Apple does not allow that as part of its license, not even for experiments by hobbyist.

Conversely, I always ask people who run a Windows OS in a VMware virtual machine if they have a legal license from Microsoft to do so, because like the above, that is actually required.

For Microsoft, as long as you acquired/bought the license legally, they’re just as happy as if you got a Dell, Dude!

Seriously, for them the pay is the same. Someone bought one of their licenses (for money, or the distributing vendor did).

Now, if you just installed it without having a license... That would be illegal.


18 posted on 10/20/2016 1:33:30 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: BBB333
Yup, just found this:

p>Take the following steps to install Windows on your Mac using a Microsoft Windows installation DVD or an .iso disc image file.

Step 1: Purchase Windows

Parallels Desktop for Mac does not include Microsoft Windows. If you don’t have a Windows copy, you can purchase Windows 10 from the Microsoft Online Store:

Note: visit this page if you need help to choose Windows 10 edition: Home or Pro.

After the purchase please visit the Download Windows 10 page to create your own installation media and the Windows 10 page to learn more about upgrade from previous Windows versions.

For earlier versions of Windows, please refer to retail stores or authorized online resellers, including Amazon.com.

19 posted on 10/20/2016 1:37:00 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

DON’T buy Windows 10! It’s virtually impossible to prevent it from updating. Sheese, come on, Microsoft!

I prefer Windows 7, but 8.1 is acceptable as well.

Buy the ‘Disk Builder’ version of the software from Amazon, it saves some money.

When installing 8.1 in Parallels you have your choice of a ‘Classic’ install or the ‘Surface Look’ install a nice choice!


20 posted on 10/20/2016 1:43:38 PM PDT by BBB333 (Q: Which is grammatically correct? Joe Biden IS or Joe Biden ARE an idiot?)
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