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October 1856
Harper's Magazine archives (subscription required) ^ | October 1856

Posted on 10/01/2016 6:22:25 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: civilwar
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Had to go look up “sobriquet” ......:o)


41 posted on 10/15/2016 6:15:59 AM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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Continued from October 15 (reply #40)

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The Diary of George Templeton Strong, Edited by Allan Nevins and Milton Halsey Thomas, Abridged by Thomas J. Pressly

42 posted on 10/16/2016 6:17:52 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

See, even then, people made sweeping election predictions that turned out to be wrong.


43 posted on 10/16/2016 7:48:58 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("So we do nothing as the rendezvous with financial collapse gets ever closer."~VDH)
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To: Tax-chick
The Republican leaders here whisper of a great "mine" that is to be sprung before November and to blow up everything . . .

Today we call it an October surprise.

44 posted on 10/16/2016 8:06:01 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Calling it the October Mine would be cooler.


45 posted on 10/16/2016 1:45:55 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("So we do nothing as the rendezvous with financial collapse gets ever closer."~VDH)
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Strong mentions [William H.] Seward and Thurlow Weed near the beginning of today’s diary entry. Seward is the second term U.S. Senator from and former Governor of New York, and so one of the most prominent politicians in the state. Thurlow Weed, formerly a Whig, became an original Republican mover and shaker. Seward wants to become President as a Republcian in 1860 and Weed is going to help him in his quest. But for now they are Fremont men.

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William H. Seward.

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Thurlow Weed

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The Diary of George Templeton Strong, Edited by Allan Nevins and Milton Halsey Thomas, Abridged by Thomas J. Pressly

46 posted on 10/19/2016 4:48:15 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Thurlow Weed has a bit of a Bernie Sanders look.

Mr. Strong’s thoughts on slavery are forceful but nuanced. It will be interesting to see how this develops. It’s also interesting that he believes the “masses” of Northern voters are vehemently opposed to abolitionism or anything like it.


47 posted on 10/19/2016 5:04:42 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("So we do nothing as the rendezvous with financial collapse gets ever closer."~VDH)
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To: Tax-chick
Mr. Strong’s thoughts on slavery are forceful but nuanced. It will be interesting to see how this develops. It’s also interesting that he believes the “masses” of Northern voters are vehemently opposed to abolitionism or anything like it.

That "conversation on race" we are always being told it is time for has been going on for a long time already.

48 posted on 10/19/2016 7:43:24 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; Tax-chick
I thought my words like "slavocracy" and "slaveocrats" were pretty strong terms, but Strong himself uses the 200 proof language that would get us deleted or even banned for posting.

Good thing we're all adults here.

;-)

49 posted on 10/19/2016 1:13:46 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; BroJoeK

Good points. It took me a few entries to figure out what he meant to convey by the terms he was using.


50 posted on 10/19/2016 1:30:01 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("So we do nothing as the rendezvous with financial collapse gets ever closer."~VDH)
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To: henkster

Still working hard to square the circle on the issue of slavery. (See Strong Aug. 5 entry & henkster reply.)


51 posted on 10/21/2016 5:20:24 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Tax-chick

He is correct about lack of popular enthusiasm for abolition in the north. It really wasn’t a popular idea, but at least you could speak about abolition in the north and not be murdered for it.


52 posted on 10/21/2016 5:24:12 PM PDT by henkster (Better to be Pavlov's Dog than Schroedinger's Cat)
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Continued from October 19 (reply #46)

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The Diary of George Templeton Strong, Edited by Allan Nevins and Milton Halsey Thomas, Abridged by Thomas J. Pressly

53 posted on 10/24/2016 4:36:03 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

His reports about Bronson Alcott are so amusing!


54 posted on 10/24/2016 4:52:46 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Pardon me, are you Aaron Burr, sir?)
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[Continued from October 24 (reply #53)]

October 27. After a chilly, wet day the city is steeping and stewing in a tepid mucilage of fog, such fog as prevails in cities, definable as the gaseous form of mud and civic filthiness; Fat Fog, lit up in every direction by the glare of tar-barrels and straw-bonfires that blaze before the multitudinous lager-beer saloons and pot-houses in which we, the people, congregate tonight, as we do every night now, and call ourselves ratification meetings, and the like.

The Diary of George Templeton Strong, Edited by Allan Nevins and Milton Halsey Thomas, Abridged by Thomas J. Pressly

55 posted on 10/27/2016 4:44:16 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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[Continued from October 27 (reply #55)]

October 28. “I rise, Mr. President, for the purpose merely of stating for the information of this meeting” that I am aweary of ward-meetings, and that my soul is sick of vigilance committees. I suppose it’s one’s duty in this country to mix in these matters and that like the majority of my friends, I’ve been criminally negligent all my life in omitting to exercise my sovereign functions otherwise than by voting and in letting the machinery that is practically so much more important than any single vote take care of itself. But it’s a very dreary function. A ward-meeting is no Witenagemot. Gas, bad grammar, bad manners, bad taste, bad temper, unnecessary rhetoric, and excitement, and affected enthusiasm about “our” candidate for this or that twopenny office, agonizings and wrestlings over momentous points of order, conscientious misgivings whether we can “legally” take this question till we’ve taken that other question, dirty little substrata of intrigue and jealousy about chairmanships and the like. It doesn’t raise one’s estimate of humanity.

The Diary of George Templeton Strong, Edited by Allan Nevins and Milton Halsey Thomas, Abridged by Thomas J. Pressly

56 posted on 10/28/2016 4:35:29 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

I’m starting to believe, Homer, that you have invented George Templeton Strong for the purpose of infiltrating your brilliant satires of the current political scene into the historical record.


57 posted on 10/28/2016 4:37:49 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Stop that. You're going to set the fire alarm off.)
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To: Tax-chick

When I read the business about a “tepid mucilage of fog” the other day I suspected that George had taken his time machine to 2016 on a quest for inspiration.


58 posted on 10/28/2016 4:52:17 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Yes, that was a brilliant description.


59 posted on 10/28/2016 5:07:20 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Stop that. You're going to set the fire alarm off.)
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[Continued from July 23 (reply #48) ]

Lee tried to keep cheerful, but was depressed by the heat and by the arrival of news that his sister Mildred, Mrs. Edward Vernon Childe, who was only forty-five, had died in Paris.

. Soon after the tidings of Mrs. Childe’s death, there came orders for the detail that Lee must by this time have learned to expect along with changing weather and hard fare: once again he was summoned to court-martial duty – not at Fort Mason or Fort Chadbourne, but 700 miles away, on the Rio Grande, at Ringgold Barracks. The assignment meant weary days of riding across Texas. He was twenty-seven days on the road, but he enjoyed the company of his friend Major George H. Thomas, who met him at Fort Mason.

At Ringgold Barracks, where he arrived on September 28, work was tedious, and the principal case before the court was protracted by two Texas lawyers. On October 30, 1856, the court adjourned to Fort Brown, on the site of the present Brownsville. Lee was now in closer touch with the outside world, and he had already made friends among the families of the other officers, who, like himself, had to travel about to form courts-martial. His duties were not heavy. Soon he recovered his old poise and wrote home in better spirits.

Douglas Southall Freeman, Lee, an abridgement by Richard Harwell

60 posted on 10/30/2016 6:07:21 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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