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A Personal Testimony...
Self ^ | Sept. 11, 2016 | AzNASCARfan

Posted on 09/11/2016 2:09:16 AM PDT by AzNASCARfan

I was arguing with a few Atheists tonight at patheos.com (lots of them there in the comments section if your ever in the mood and looking for a little back and forth...) the link above goes to the article I was commenting on, titled - No Matter How Smart They Think They Are, Atheists Don’t Shake My Faith

I wrote this out and just wanted to share my testimony with my FRiends here too...

For some background, She was an Atheist, because she needed something she could actually detect with her senses...


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How about this for something you can detect by your senses... when people die, studies show with consistency, they immediately lose a few grams of weight, if that is not the soul leaving the body what else could it possibly be?

I personally witnessed my grandfathers soul leaving his body, had been sitting by his bed for 3 days in hospice, did not eat or drink anything during that time or for a week prior, he did not move more than inches in the bed the whole time I was there... he had no physical strength from absolutely no nourishment for over a week and he was not "there" for a conversation, The final day, his regular church pastor came in and started reading a bible verse to him and grandpa spoke up and finished the verse and kept going for a few more, We (including hospice nurses) were all flabbergasted, because they could not get anything out of him on pain levels or any feedback whatsoever. His eyes closed after that and breathing changed. When final time came a few hours later that evening, his breathing changed again and we gathered around him and all told him it was alright to go home, we would all be ok, and along shortly, his eyes opened, he said oh lord I see you, as his hands went up over his head and he sort of folded in the middle as his head and feet both came off the bed about 18"... he gasped his final breath and fell back onto the bed, his soul was gone, no further breaths, heartbeats or movement whatsoever.

Since that time, 11 years ago from this Thanksgiving day, I have heard his voice and seen his face, there is no doubt in my mind that he is still around, he is just not using the old worn out earthly body anymore! I feel closer to him now, for the past few years than I did for the 20 before that, when he lived in Oregon and I had moved to Arizona.

1 posted on 09/11/2016 2:09:16 AM PDT by AzNASCARfan
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To: AzNASCARfan

An atheist would have to say that the experience you describe regarding your grandfather was all just a bunch of chemical reactions.


2 posted on 09/11/2016 2:26:14 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (Nuke Saudi Arabia now)
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To: AzNASCARfan

I don’t get why they have a convention. What’s the point?


3 posted on 09/11/2016 2:54:30 AM PDT by j. earl carter
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To: j. earl carter

Satisfying their approbation lust.


4 posted on 09/11/2016 2:56:12 AM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: AzNASCARfan
Your account both comforting and inspirational although the 'few grams of weight' sounds somewhat farfetched and needs a source.

Atheism is at best self worship, buttressed by intolerance. I always reserve the most vituperative scorn I can muster for its proponents - with a modicum of dilution, for the young and impressionable.

5 posted on 09/11/2016 3:07:47 AM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (Globalism = Terrorism)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
An atheist would have to say that the experience you describe regarding your grandfather was all just a bunch of chemical reactions.

And a rainbow is just refraction of light! The stolid, solid atheist denies that there is anything beyond his/her own senses and by doing so denies the vey wonder that his human intelligence. Everything that we are learning from DNA and modern science says that we are animals, only minimally separated from our animal cousins. Where then does our intelligence arise? WHERE?

Jeremiah 5:21 - Hear this, you foolish and senseless people, who have eyes but do not see, who have ears but do not hear !

6 posted on 09/11/2016 3:08:59 AM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: j. earl carter

Hiding inside every atheist is a frightened child fearful of looking under the bed lest what he fears is there really is there, so they hold conventions to reinforce their denial of what they fear.


7 posted on 09/11/2016 3:16:06 AM PDT by spirited irish
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To: AzNASCARfan

So, are you saying that a spirit is really physical and has weight?


8 posted on 09/11/2016 4:05:08 AM PDT by Lucas McCain (Liberalism is the willful embrace of abject stupidity.)
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To: AzNASCARfan

If I only believed in what I could detect by my senses, I would not believe in God.

I would also not believe in love.


9 posted on 09/11/2016 4:11:11 AM PDT by generally
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zI heard of that study back in the 80s. The body lose slight weight at the moment of death. Very strange.


10 posted on 09/11/2016 4:34:09 AM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job....)
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To: AzNASCARfan

I can prove that the soul exists, even in a scientific setting.

I’ve worked with quite a few atheists relating to their medical conditions. It freaks them out when they experience their own soul.

Just this week I learned that another one converted and is now attending church weekly, after one session with me. I tell them up front that I am not promoting religion.

I don’t try to prove anything to them, in fact I usually tell them that whatever they believe is fine and possibly better as they have not come in with a lot of dogma. I do not work with hypnosis nor the placebo effect.

I read their souls in a very scientific manner which educates and empowers a person as to why they have their medical condition. It’s like x-rays to bones and is not based upon psychic abilities.

People don’t realize how the soul works. When you are able to tune your consciousness to higher levels, other people’s thoughts and stored memories of all the events in their lives become physical objects, able to be read and changed.

I don’t touch the person, they close their eyes, no taste or smell and I don’t say a word while working with them. Even so, when I reach out and touch the stored memories in their soul, often 10 to 15 ft from their physical bodies, it often knocks them off their feet. The process is repeatable and completely bypasses the sensory stimulation and the critical mind. While one of my degrees is in psychology, I never considered it a science due to the biased variable of perception. Then I figured out how to bypass perception and read the stored memories directly, all the way back to conception.

I guess it is time to share this knowledge with the public as it explains many current medical procedures and how they work, or often do not work. It also explains why Jesus taught what He did in the Bible.


11 posted on 09/11/2016 4:36:58 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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Since early childhood we are hardened against this ability. How did you free it, if you needed to? This is a terrible (frightening) ability. It is not always used for good.


12 posted on 09/11/2016 5:03:40 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Stop the Left and save the world.)
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To: spirited irish
Atheists are their own gods. What ever they believe is true. This is incredibly dangerous. They have zero restraint on their thoughts and actions other that what they perceive as correct.

I have to ask, “Who died and made you god?”

13 posted on 09/11/2016 6:52:07 AM PDT by Awgie (Truth is always stranger than fiction.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

I died, experienced Heaven, and returned (Not by my choice)

I did nothing to cause it to happen other than turn to God in prayer while going through turmoil.

It is as much a curse as a blessing. Thus for the most part I have stayed a recluse for about 20 years. Only now opening up to it.

I feel like a walking pin cushion at all times, especially if my higher connection gets weak. A spring flowing clean water out will never allow dirty water to flow in. i.e. Practice the presence of God at all times everywhere, thus radiating outward to transmute the garbage before it can flow in.


14 posted on 09/11/2016 7:52:27 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: AzNASCARfan

What a wonderful post. Thanks for sharing that.


15 posted on 09/11/2016 8:20:28 AM PDT by Nea Wood
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To: tired&retired

I too experienced death and heaven at a young age. It remains, after 65 years, the touchstone experience of my life.


16 posted on 09/11/2016 8:47:09 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Stop the Left and save the world.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

The treasure buried in the field is beyond description with words.


17 posted on 09/11/2016 9:06:51 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Awgie

Good summary. As for their ‘godhood,’ it only exists on the deepest, darkest, most deranged level of imagination.


18 posted on 09/11/2016 11:41:25 AM PDT by spirited irish
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To: AzNASCARfan

What a testimony! Thank you!


19 posted on 09/11/2016 12:24:57 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (We will be one People, under one God, saluting one American flag. (standing ovation) --Donald Trump)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Yeah I understand, for those who believe, no further proof is needed, for those who dont, no evidence would ever be enough... i will simply pray god opens their eyes so they recognize it, when he reveals himself to them before they pass. This a once in a lifetime experience words barely scratch the surface of, compared to the power of being there. It was my grandfather’s final lesson from earth, for me, my sister, my mom and my grandmother! I


20 posted on 09/11/2016 1:36:03 PM PDT by AzNASCARfan
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