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Freeper Gearheads! Overtightened nut, stripped stud. Turns 4ever but won't come off..! :>(
Me ^ | Aug 20th, 2016 | me

Posted on 08/20/2016 2:26:32 PM PDT by gaijin

96 Camry V6, 166k miles, engine = 1MZFE (I think)

Flushed engine, changed oil, got a low oil-pressure light, pulled over.

Dropped oil pan, cleared out a TON of oil boogers that were in the pan, YIKES..! Also swished the oil pick-up tube around in some flush solution, cleared the screen.

Drove around a week and it was FINE..! Then oil pressure light returned :(

Swapped out the oil pressure sender switch (don't have the oil pressure tester gauge but I ordered one) and the oil pressure light did come with the new switch.

Hoping it's more oil boogers in the pan not the engine bearings, I want to drop the pan again:

Turns out I overtightened one of the two nuts that secure the pan. The nut is in great condition and is flush to the pan surface but turns FOREVER without backing off the stud and it's in tight quarters.

"Get a screwdriver behind it and pry a bit while untightening with the socket..!"

Yeah, I tried that but when the stud got stripped the nut was RIGHT UP against the pan --I cannot get a screwdriver under there.

"Try a knife!" Yeah, I did that and it didn't work. That IS thinner, but there still isn't enough space. :(

"Put some freepin' vice-grips on that suckah and pull DOWN while going lefty-loosy..! You'll get it back on the threads, bro..!" Yeah, I tried that but that nut STILL won't back off the threads. Vice-grips pull off that slippery nut :(

I own a Dremel but it's not a cordless one and the car is parked across the street from this Starbucks from which I'm typing, and I can't access an outlet.

WHAT DO..? This sucks. :(


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To: rottndog

I’d try the two but trick. Btw, it’s not a sending unit. These engines are notorious for sludge. Do a Google search for it. You’ll get good at dropping the pan and cleaning the oil pickup before you sort it out. Run Wal-Mart conventional oil with 20% marvel mystery oil and change every 3k. You might also pull the oil press sender and clean it. A full de-sludge is no job for amateurs, but a gradual cleaning should get you by.


41 posted on 08/20/2016 2:57:19 PM PDT by ebshumidors
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To: ebshumidors

Two nuts together trick. Damn autocorrect.


42 posted on 08/20/2016 2:59:10 PM PDT by ebshumidors
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To: right way right
Tack weld the nut to the stud and if you do it right you can turn the whole stud out with a socket or wrench.

Great idea! Did you miss the part where he's across the street from a starbucks not in a repair shop?

43 posted on 08/20/2016 2:59:27 PM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: knarf

I have reverse drill bits that will often back the bolt out as you drill it.
You must be dead center or else things get much worse.
Break off an ez out or drill bit and you’re in a real bad way.
I like the tack weld method best if you can get to it. Even a bolt that is broke off flush can be tacked down the middle of a extra over sized nut. Even if weld into the casting around the bolt a little bit it can still turn it out.
It takes tedious smarts.


44 posted on 08/20/2016 3:01:07 PM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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To: Kirkwood
You need a nut buster.

I had one of those once, but, thankfully, she moved to Portland.

45 posted on 08/20/2016 3:01:59 PM PDT by KevinB (Barack Obama: Our first black, gay, Kenyan, Socialist, Muslim president!)
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To: Kirkwood

Hey!
Just y’all stay away from Lurlene’s breasticles!
[snicker]


46 posted on 08/20/2016 3:03:19 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (P)
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To: raybbr

Starbucks? He needs to tow it to a shop. He’s already ‘done’ enough.


47 posted on 08/20/2016 3:04:39 PM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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To: gaijin
“I own a Dremel but it's not a cordless one and the car is parked across the street from this Starbucks from which I'm typing, and I can't access an outlet. “

Get some of those lazy ass liberals in Starbucks to push your car over to an outlet. If you have a cut off wheel for the dremel- cut the nut off. Like others mentioned above you'll have to drill out the stud with a carbide bit and use a heli-coil to restore the threads. If you're good with the dremel you can remove most of the stud with a small carbide dremel bit and re-tap.

48 posted on 08/20/2016 3:10:11 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (DEPORT OBOLA VOTERS)
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To: wrench
Wood chisel and hammer. You will destroy the chisel, but it will get behind the nut. Or a steel chisel and cut the bolt off.

Second this. You're going to have to go past asking to telling, and a chisel is the way to do it. But wrench is right, a steel chisel will cut it. So if you want to save the post, use a cheap wood chisel and hammer it in and then lever the nut while you crank it.

49 posted on 08/20/2016 3:10:43 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: gaijin

Can you get a pair of Channelocks on the head w/ a screwdriver under it acting like a fulcrum? Sometimes just a 1/4-1/2 turn will get the threads to catch.

Could you get something between the pan and the block and put a little downward pressure w/o distorting the pan?


50 posted on 08/20/2016 3:11:34 PM PDT by Vinnie
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To: yarddog

” I never really liked doing it and your post makes me realize that I plan to never do any more.”

That’s true with a lot of things. I used do all my own electrical, plumbing, and gas plumbing. At the time, I liked doing it and liked saving money. Now that I have enough money and am getting older, there are other things I’d rather do with my remaining time.


51 posted on 08/20/2016 3:12:30 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: gaijin

Machinist here...

Is the nut spinning or is the nut and stud spinning?

Get a case of oil and drive it home.

If stud is rotating...

Try bending the nut with vise grips. This will seize it to the stud maybe the stud stud can be removed. Failing that drill a hole in to the stud and use an Easy Out. If that still doesn’t do it drill pilot hole in to stud. Then drill the threads out only as deep as the nut. Remove nut. Try stud again. Still no then drill out stud and thread the hole for a Helicoil insert. Insert new stud and nut.

If only nut turns...

Buy a cordless dremel and split the nut. If you have access you can also get a nut splitter and crack the nut. Most likely the nut is stripped and stud should be ok. But you will still want to chase all the threads. Chase the threads on all the studs when you remove the pan and use new nuts.


52 posted on 08/20/2016 3:22:15 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Hillary Clinton, the elderly woman's version of "I dindu nuffins.")
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To: gaijin

You mean nuts or bolts? Are there studs sticking out of the engine? Or do bolts go in to threaded holes in the block?


53 posted on 08/20/2016 3:25:04 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Hillary Clinton, the elderly woman's version of "I dindu nuffins.")
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To: gaijin

grind it off and tap a new hole ... an awful lot to go through for an oil pan.


54 posted on 08/20/2016 3:34:56 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true ... and it pisses people off.)
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To: ebshumidors

I did the google search on the 1MZ-FE and Sludge and u suggested, and I discovered you are right —the sludging is apparently a very broad problem.

For the 3k mile OCI’s what conventional oil subtype should I use with the 20% Marvel..?

20w-50...? I need something thick.


55 posted on 08/20/2016 3:41:53 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

You only need the thicker oil if your engine bearings are worn badly. This is usually the cause of low oil pressure. However, the thicker oil could be a detriment in cold weather. Best bet would be to check the pressure with a gauge.


56 posted on 08/20/2016 4:04:01 PM PDT by rapture-me
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To: gaijin

I can tell you everything you need to know about that kind of stuff.

Take it to a professional who does that for a living, and when he’s done pay him whatever he asks for it.


57 posted on 08/20/2016 4:05:59 PM PDT by OKSooner (Can you say "catheter bag"? Yes, I knew you could.)
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To: gaijin

If the bolt is into the bottom of the block, and the block is threaded to accept that bolt, get it towed to a mechanic and have them fix it. You’ll never be able to do it yourself in a parking lot.


58 posted on 08/20/2016 4:17:45 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (This is the legacy of Hillary Clinton: Death, destruction, terrorism and weakness.)
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To: gaijin
Take the car to the junk yard. Take what they give.

Go buy something reliable.

Or do everything Organic Panic and Dr. Bogus says.

Either way, my prayers are with you.

Keep us posted.

59 posted on 08/20/2016 4:20:44 PM PDT by onona (Honey this isn't Kindergarten. We are in an all out war for the survival of our Country !)
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To: gaijin

Take all the other bolts out of the pan, use the loose pan to apply down leverage on the bolt as you turn the bolt. Alternatively, put a pry (screwdriver) between the loose pan and the engine block where the bolt is and pry down on the screwdriver as you turn the bolt. You have stripped the treads and likely some of the stripped material is lodged in the bolt threads preventing the bolt from coming out.


60 posted on 08/20/2016 4:40:20 PM PDT by iontheball
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