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Only 11 percent of Trump backers expect 2016 votes to be counted accurately
Washington Post ^ | Aug. 20, 2016 | Aaron Blake

Posted on 08/20/2016 5:26:20 AM PDT by rickmichaels

Donald Trump says the 2016 election will be "rigged." He has even suggested, despite very little evidence of actual voter fraud in the United States, that it's the only way he might lose a state like Pennsylvania.

We shouldn't be surprised if this message catches on — if there is substantial questioning of an outcome in which he loses, especially in a close race. I laid out my case for why earlier this week.

And now, more polling data suggests this is fertile territory for Trump to plant seeds of doubt in case he loses. Trump backers this year, it turns out, are uniquely skeptical of the vote-counting process.

In new Pew poll, just 11 percent of Trump backers say they are "very" confident that the votes in the 2016 election will be counted accurately. Another 37 percent are "somewhat" confident, and half of the GOP nominee's supporters are either "not too" (31 percent) or "not at all" (19 percent) confident.

In contrast, 49 percent of Clinton supporters are "very" confident, and only 20 percent are either "not too" or "not at all" confident.

What's especially interesting about the Pew numbers is that they indicate the shoe was once on the other foot.

Back in 2004, it was Democratic voters who were more concerned about inaccurate vote counts. When Pew asked how confident they were that their own votes would be accurately counted — a more personal version of the previous question — 48 percent of Democrats said they were "very" confident, while 75 percent of Republicans were.

This was very likely the lingering effects of a contested 2000 presidential election — Florida, "hanging chads" and all that — which wound up going Republicans' way.

But even then, Democratic voters were more confident in the vote-counting process than Republicans are now. Today, even without a similar recent controversy for Republicans to point to, those numbers are 67 percent for Democrats to just 38 percent for Republicans.

So, to reiterate, even after a 2000 election in which many Democrats thought Florida election officials essentially miscounted votes and handed the presidency to George W. Bush, Democratic voters were still more confident about the vote-counting process than Trump voters are today.

Now, this doesn't mean that the vast majority of Trump backers are expecting a totally "rigged" election. It's possible that they think the inaccuracies would be too small to matter — and that the inaccuracies might not be deliberate. Miscounting votes is not the same thing as large-scale voter fraud.

But as I wrote earlier this week, other data does indicate that many Republicans believe there could be rather large-scale voter fraud. A majority of Wisconsin Republicans — 54 percent — said in 2014 that fraud of one type or another moves thousands of votes in the state in every election, despite a lack of evidence to back up that theory.

And with the 2016 GOP nominee pushing that idea hard, it seems quite possible to catch on.


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KEYWORDS: 2016polls; cultureofcorruption; voterfraud
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Scary.


81 posted on 08/21/2016 5:58:47 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE? liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing penetrates it.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Texas just had their similar voter laws struck down.


82 posted on 08/21/2016 6:43:10 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: CodeToad

Sorry to hear that. =[

States should piggyback off of legislation that has not been blocked.


83 posted on 08/21/2016 6:47:14 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

“States should piggyback off of legislation that has not been blocked.”

That is not reality. The reality is a federal judge can be shopped for that will overturn State legislation. Virginia simply hasn’t had that challenge yet...yet.


84 posted on 08/21/2016 6:48:43 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Liz

Providing link ...

Twitter Embarks on Mass Purge of Those Expressing ‘Extremist’ Ideas
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3461216/posts

snippet:
But Twitter’s double-standard when it comes to users “inciting” violence is beyond measure. On August 15, leftist and lesbian feminist journalist for The Guardian, Julie Bindel Tweeted that “All men are rapists and should be put in prison and then shot.”

How sweet.

Julie’s still going strong on Twitter. And if Milo had been left-wing and said the same thing, one suspects he would still have a platform on the Tweet-deck as well.

[snip]


85 posted on 08/21/2016 6:51:03 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts)
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To: WildHighlander57; All
VOTERS----if your polling place has a sign “no cell phone use beyond this
point”
...... take I-phone pics INSIDE the voting booth....take a pic of you
pulling the lever for Trump, for example.

The hell with them all.....they are protecting themselves...not you.

Surreptitiously take pics of any voting documents you are given.....
AND take a pic of your voter sign-in page.

86 posted on 08/21/2016 6:52:15 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE? liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing penetrates it.)
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To: CodeToad

You’re right. It all depends on what activists are allowed to gavel-jockey in what federal benches.


87 posted on 08/21/2016 6:54:54 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts)
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To: zeugma
Trump needs to beat the margin of fraud. It is hard to say what that margin actually is, but I suspect it is more than 5%.

I think it's normally 2-3%, but the Democrats are in a panic this time and are going to take risks to get it over 5%. Might be a good opportunity to catch them in the act and get the evidence into the hands of foreign media.

88 posted on 08/21/2016 6:55:33 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: CodeToad

In fact, my suggestion might be a bad idea. If all states line up with uniform legislation, it would be easy for Chief Just-Us Roberts to backstab us all at once.


89 posted on 08/21/2016 6:56:08 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

It is why we have States and not a single country. No one trusts that central authority.


90 posted on 08/21/2016 6:58:11 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: CodeToad; Liz

It is disheartening that so many federal judges support voter fraud.

And despite that, I still believe Trump will win.

And when he wins despite mass voter fraud — his mandate will be beyond ANYTHING yet seen. Revolutionary.

Then it’s farewell to mass voter fraud.


91 posted on 08/21/2016 7:11:07 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts)
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To: CodeToad; Liz

Don’t forget — there’s no voter fraud without the will to commit the crime to begin with.

Mercenary cheaters only get you so far. Normally you need fanatics on your side to reach 2008 and 2012 level fraud. But the libertarians and Green party are ciphoning away democrat energy this year. Their fanaticism is shifting to something less harmful to the USA — a time of soul searching for the DNC.

One poll today shows the Green Party snatching 5%. That’s where a lot of those ACORN nuts are going. Or their energy is focused in riots and cop killings, etc rather than the election process. Bad for police, but it’s a ‘bug zapper’ that draws energy from long term destruction to the USA.


92 posted on 08/21/2016 7:15:06 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Nice input-----they may think they nailed it all down.

But as my mom was fond of saying, "there's many a slip twixt cup and the lip"....

93 posted on 08/21/2016 7:23:43 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE? liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing penetrates it.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Gingrich on Hannity: "Hillary is going to lose _ we haven't seen 10% of the things the Clintons have done (comes out in September)."

"She is going to drown under the impact and when democrats are calling for the closure of the Clinton Foundation the question becomes why was it not done when she was SOS since it was so bad. "

GINGRICH: "Donald Trump is on the verge of creating a genuinely historic movement bigger than Reagan."

94 posted on 08/21/2016 7:33:41 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE? liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing penetrates it.)
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To: rickmichaels
.....votes to be counted accurately

I am blind, but the generous Obama nation has given me a part time job during elections, I will greatly appreciate.

95 posted on 08/21/2016 7:39:18 AM PDT by Koracan
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To: Liz

GINGRICH: “Donald Trump is on the verge of creating a genuinely historic movement bigger than Reagan.”

Gingrich is correct. Reagan didn’t have Twitter, but he made Twitter possible through deregulating communications. He’s a part of this revolution too.

But since Trump is revolutionizing the presidential campaign, even if he loses, politics will never be the same again.

But since he has such impact? I think he will win and enjoy a mandate that no other politician has had since George Washington. Not that he will leave the same kind of mark — Trump lacks Washington’s clear vision. But the potential will be there, especially when the economy improves.


96 posted on 08/22/2016 4:14:36 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Trump is benefitting from an exceptionally well-informed electorate——informed by the internet.

The political buzz keeps going round and round the globe on the massive information superhighway.......all day-—all night.

In a nano-second, all is revealed.

Much as they detest it, Obama, the DNC, Hillary and the rest, can do nothing about it.


97 posted on 08/22/2016 7:22:57 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE? liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing penetrates it.)
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To: Liz
'... exceptionally well-informed electorate ...'

And people didn't bother to get informed until Trump woke them up [Europe included]. Now we are seeing a revolution in Europe, the most urgent update in Germany:

GERMANY SCRAMBLES. PREPARES FOR CRISIS.

German right-wing leader backs citizens' right to arm themselves...
http://news.yahoo.com/german-wing-leader-backs-citizens-arm-themselves-101701905.html

PAPER: GERMANY TO TELL CITIZENS STOCKPILE FOOD, WATER...

[GERMANY PLANS] FOR CATASTROPHE...
https://www.yahoo.com/news/germany-tell-people-stockpile-food-water-case-attacks-154318206--sector.html

Merkel, Hollande, Renzi Plot to Save EU...
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-crisis-meeting-idUSKCN10W0CO

Minister wants facial recognition at airports, train stations...
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/german-minister-wants-facial-recognition-systems-airports-train-093802978.html

[... at the same time ...]

Venezuela Is Collapsing and the Left Is Afraid to Admit Why
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3461187/posts

98 posted on 08/22/2016 7:49:04 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts)
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To: Liz; All

B T T T


99 posted on 08/22/2016 8:18:33 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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