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McLaren's 'Entry-Level' Car Is Quicker Than a Porsche 911 Turbo S
Road and Track ^ | 19 Aug, 2016 | Máté Petrány

Posted on 08/19/2016 8:31:47 PM PDT by MtnClimber

When Top Gear brought together the latest Audi R8 V10 Plus, Porsche 911 Turbo S, McLaren 570S and Nissan GT-R on a runway, they must have guessed that the former acceleration king doesn't have a chance against the younger breed. The GT-R is almost a decade old now, and despite having 565 horses and all-wheel drive, it's been proven that even a GT3 RS can beat it both in a straight line and around the bends. It's also the cheapest car of the lot, so fair is fair.

On paper, the Audi R8 V10 Plus should demolish a McLaren 570S in a drag race, packing almost 50 more horsepower and all-wheel drive. But having driven both the 570S and its softer brother, the 570GT, there's one thing I can tell you: when the boost of that 3.8 V8 comes on, you better be pointing forward. These entry-level McLarens might not be as savage as a 675LT or as fast around the track as a 650S with its more advanced suspension, but they aren't running on Diet Coke either.

Up until now, no matter how much money you spent, it was almost impossible to find something that can make a 580 horsepower 911 Turbo S sweat. The Porsche's got a fast PDK gearbox, a smart all-wheel drive system and all the power you could ever ask for. The rear-(mid) engined layout also helps it off the line, and that's exactly why it can reach sixty-two miles per hour 0.4 seconds faster than the rear-wheel drive McLaren 570S, stopping the clock at 2.7 seconds.

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To: MtnClimber
My 4Runner's A/C went out. I thought it was going to be a major repair, but I went to a 4Runner web site and found out I only needed to replace a relay.

Stupid tiny piece of metal and plastic cost me $100, but at least it wasn't the hundreds I expected to have to fork over to get the A/C system leak tested and repaired.

21 posted on 08/19/2016 10:35:04 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: MtnClimber

Can I ask what you do for a living?


22 posted on 08/19/2016 11:02:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Way back when my Mustang GT only had 200 horsepower and it was nearly too much to handle.


23 posted on 08/19/2016 11:02:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: MtnClimber

3.8 V6 ? Reminds me of the Nobles.

And I would buy a Noble. twin turbo 3.8, H pattern shifter.

And for $40-$60k too.


24 posted on 08/19/2016 11:38:41 PM PDT by Celerity
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The BMW I8 is a neat car.

Neat. But no manuals. I still find an automatic transmission in an exotic to be an insult.

It’s like performing in a marathon to win - Only you hate the idea of running.


25 posted on 08/19/2016 11:40:10 PM PDT by Celerity
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Am I the only one here who thinks these cars look ugly as sh!t ?


26 posted on 08/19/2016 11:42:07 PM PDT by Celerity
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To: Celerity

As speed goes up, the basic shape and style of the vehicle gets a lot more limited by aerodynamics. Add the limitations of seating location for realistically seeing on actual streets and and the mid-engine location and they do all look the same. They can’t help it.


27 posted on 08/20/2016 12:22:34 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Celerity

The new automatics can shift much faster than any human being.


28 posted on 08/20/2016 12:31:52 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Celerity

You might find destroying the engine of a supercar by mistaken shifting exhilarating, but manufacturers do not. Nor do they relish amateur drivers being forced to take a hand off the wheel at high speed.

There are plenty of antique opportunities, and some modern ones, for gleefully rowing your own.


29 posted on 08/20/2016 12:50:40 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: MtnClimber

I have a 1979 Corvette L-82. It was great in its day but you are right. When driving, it is pay attention time as if you get in trouble it won’t save your behind.


30 posted on 08/20/2016 3:50:02 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: alexander_busek

Killjoy. (In event that you forgot the sarcasm tag)


31 posted on 08/20/2016 4:10:09 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: MtnClimber

This will nail the opposition at urban stoplights.


32 posted on 08/20/2016 4:16:33 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: MtnClimber
The Mercedes AMG GTS is one I have looked at too. I have started one, but not driven one. They have great V8 engine noise even with the turbos.

I bought my CLA 250 a little over a year ago - when I take it in for a periodic bath, and to munch on free muffins and drink free cappuccino, I wander the floor and the lot looking for my next one - finances won't let me get one of the "real" Mercedes for $200K, but they have some very respectable options for under $70K - I'll keep mine for a couple more years as it's a blast to drive, but wil want some sort of upgrade.

33 posted on 08/20/2016 4:28:03 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: MtnClimber

So let me get this straight. The Porsche is faster accelerating to 60 but the McLaren becomes faster at higher speeds and is quicker to 100. In conclusion it all depends on which range of speed you want to be faster accelerating in. Legal or illegal.


34 posted on 08/20/2016 4:51:04 AM PDT by xp38
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To: alexander_busek; MtnClimber

It’s all about appreciation of a fine mechanical device. I’ve had dirt and road bikes, fast cars ( nothing compared to these), tractors, dozers, and bobcats. I find something to marvel at in every one of them.


35 posted on 08/20/2016 5:02:00 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarm)
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To: alexander_busek
Why so much fuss about some new motor vehicle? After all, it's primarily about getting from point "A" to point "B," right?

I drive for the same reason I motorcycle for the same reason I mt. bike. For the please of act, not for the destination. I'm lucky enough to have collected a variety of on and offload vehicles and to have retired before the age or 50 so as to be able to enjoy taking them from point A to point A via the long route.

36 posted on 08/20/2016 5:07:45 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (If Trump loses, America dies)
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To: Celerity

“Am I the only one here who thinks these cars look ugly as sh!t ?”

I don’t find them very visually appealing. Adding insult to injury, when I did an image search to look at one, it seemed the most predominant color was something that resembles candy corn orange. To each his own I guess.


37 posted on 08/20/2016 5:36:08 AM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: MtnClimber
New performance cars usually have traction, brake and stability control. Those controls cannot overcome physics in bad conditions

The key is the tires. A fair amount of these cars come with various grades of ultra performance summer tires. Some of those tires turn into racing slicks after several thousand miles. Hit something like gravel or standing water on a curve and around you go..

38 posted on 08/20/2016 6:11:44 AM PDT by EVO X
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To: Carthego delenda est

The old saying is still true:

Just because a man drives a Ferrari it does not make him a Ferrari driver.


39 posted on 08/20/2016 6:22:47 AM PDT by BBB333 (Q: Which is grammatically correct? Joe Biden IS or Joe Biden ARE an idiot?)
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To: EVO X

On my Mercedes C300 4-Matic I have two sets of wheels for summer tires and winter tires. I live in the Colorado Rockies so the conditions always change. My summer tires are wider than stock and the tires are Michelin Pilot Super Sport. They are almost slicks so I have to go slower than usual in rain. Yesterday we had a front come through and heavy rain. There was water flowing across the road in spots and sand/gravel washed across the road. I had no trouble because I know that happens here and don’t push my luck.


40 posted on 08/20/2016 6:41:14 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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