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At Rio Olympics, the National Anthem Sounds ... Sad?
New York Times ^ | 8/11/2016 | David Segal

Posted on 08/11/2016 7:57:36 AM PDT by simpson96

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To: ErikJohnsky

It needs to be in the key of F!.....................


21 posted on 08/11/2016 8:27:20 AM PDT by Red Badger (Make America AMERICA again!.........................)
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To: jaydubya2

I’ve always said that if I win the proverbial lottery I’m going to commission John Williams to compose an entrance theme for me that I can play when I enter a room, a McDonald’s, or anywhere else.


22 posted on 08/11/2016 8:28:59 AM PDT by MeganC (JE SUIS CHARLES MARTEL!!!)
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To: carriage_hill
I recall the rendition of the Anthem that way played at Olympics 20-30 years ago was very different. It started off with a military style drumroll. It was very strong, upbeat, and stirring. It made your heart swell with pride.

This 2016 version is the very opposite. Someone at the US Olympic Committee sent this version to Rio to be the one played whenever the US won a gold medal. And that someone chose this version for a reason. I would be interested to know who that was, and to hear an explanation as to why they chose it.

23 posted on 08/11/2016 8:31:03 AM PDT by simpson96
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To: simpson96

Think of it as the ‘liberal version’ the “Obama’s ashamed of his country’ version... The ‘trashy American elites’ want better... version.


24 posted on 08/11/2016 8:33:51 AM PDT by GOPJ (White Liberal Elites: Tacky White Trash With Money)
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To: ErikJohnsky
its in the wrong key at the Olympics. Its supposed to be done in the key of Bb, not C.

The Olympics almost never gets the national anthems "right," in the sense of having them sound the way people of the respective nations expect them to sound. It would be much easier for the organizers to simply go to the respective nations' teams and have them provide the sheet music and/or recordings for their national anthems, but that doesn't seem to have occurred to anyone in charge.

Having said all that, Anacreon, the tune that eventually becomes the tune for our national anthem, was originally written in C:

But as with everything else in history, this is not all that it seems. The "C" of the late 1700s was tuned to a lower pitch than the "C" of today, so someone singing a "C" in the late 1700s would be singing a tone somewhere around the "B" below today's C. Moreover, "To Anacreon in Heaven" was a drinking song, and people who are drinking can't effectively control their vocal cords, so someone who is SUI (singing under the influence) is probably going to sing flat. Put all that together, and chances are that the people singing Anacreon in the late 1700s might have thought of themselves as singing in C major, but they might well have been singing at a pitch level equivalent to Bb major by today's standards.

25 posted on 08/11/2016 8:34:00 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: simpson96
Did it sound like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_PtnvVQhqA

I've always thought this should be played in the background while showing images of Obama's America and the destruction he has wrought.

26 posted on 08/11/2016 8:36:58 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: chajin

Thanks for posting this. I was trying to think of a way to bring it up, but, you did it quite well.

I once heard a guy play the tune on a guitar for an historical re-enactment. The original does have a slight mournful tone to it.


27 posted on 08/11/2016 8:40:42 AM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: simpson96

The way it should be played, w/ drumroll:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwGodJTgCwE


28 posted on 08/11/2016 8:46:33 AM PDT by Carriage Hill ( Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: simpson96

I know exactly what the writer means.

They have also taken a curious approach with ‘God Save The Queen.’


29 posted on 08/11/2016 8:48:26 AM PDT by Savrola
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To: chajin

it could’ve been “written in C” for a Bb instrument like Trumpet

see transposing instrument: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transposing_instrument


30 posted on 08/11/2016 8:48:43 AM PDT by ErikJohnsky
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To: grobdriver

Yikes. That would be effective.


31 posted on 08/11/2016 9:16:03 AM PDT by simpson96
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To: carriage_hill

That’s the version I remember.


32 posted on 08/11/2016 9:16:42 AM PDT by simpson96
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To: firebrand
And then there's Enrico Pallazzo....

Oh say can you see / By the dawn's early light / What so proudly we hail / In the twilight's last gleaming? / Whose bright stripes and broad stars / In the perilous night / For the ramparts we watched / uh, da-da-da-da-da-daaaa. / And the rocket's red glare / Lots of bombs in the air / Gave proof to the night / That we still had our flag. / Oh say does that flag banner wave / Over a-a-all that's free / And the home of the land / And the land of the - FREE!

33 posted on 08/11/2016 9:21:27 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: knarf
I don't think it sounds that bad, either. Seems to me, the Olympics when held in other countries than the U.S. have always a slightly funky version.
34 posted on 08/11/2016 9:22:03 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (<---has now left CA for NV, where God/guns have not been outlawed! Prayers for Trump and family)
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To: onedoug

ping


35 posted on 08/11/2016 9:22:36 AM PDT by windcliff
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To: ErikJohnsky
it could’ve been “written in C” for a Bb instrument like Trumpet

I don't think trumpets and clarinets were Bb until the mid-1800s; IIRC even in Brahms' day the trumpets were still not keyed.

36 posted on 08/11/2016 9:22:41 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: knarf
Here but it doesn't sound that bad to me.

It doesn't sound terrible to me either. Although it was meant to be an upbeat, fast tempo piece, I think the version used in Rio is simply intended to sound dramatic. Not mournful.

37 posted on 08/11/2016 9:27:27 AM PDT by sockhead
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To: dfwgator

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38 posted on 08/11/2016 9:30:38 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: simpson96

I agree. And I bet the one(s) who chose it did not think we would notice and see (hear) through it. Very ham-fisted, aren’t they? We hear. We see. We take note.


39 posted on 08/11/2016 9:31:09 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: jaydubya2
Maybe they should play Darth Vaders Imperial March Theme?

Can't speak for anything else, but they've been playing that a lot between fencing matches.

40 posted on 08/11/2016 9:43:48 AM PDT by Vroomfondel
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