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Coast to Coast radio show. Last night, discussed EMP threat. Bump for Trump
Coast to Coast Radio Show ^ | 8/9/2016 | (self)

Posted on 08/09/2016 3:40:42 AM PDT by cba123

I was listening to the talk radio show Coast to Coast AM, this morning.

There was a very good segment, on the threat of losing power, due to an EMP attack.

This is an issue, which George Noory, has been talking about, for almost two years.

I support him on this, and think this is an issue which Trump should take a position on.

America needs to protect our electrical grid.

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KEYWORDS: 2016issues; emp; empthreat; jihadinamerica; talkradio; trump
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To: Myrddin; blam; Augie; appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; ...
Prepper Ping List :
EMP/ Solar Flare : Resources already on FreeRepublic :
EMP/ solar Flare Resources already on FreeRepublic :
see : EMP Attack Could Kill 90% of US Population
www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3417289/posts

see : Deadly stars: Our sun could also be superflare star
www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3414719/posts

see : What is a superflare? Researchers explain 'devastating consequences' of an eruption from the Sun
www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3413241/posts

see : Earth Will Only Have 12 Hours To Prepare For Massive Solar Storm (7/29/15 )
www.freerepublic.com/tag/emp/index?tab=articles

see : The First 15 Things You Must Do Immediately After an EMP (5/23/15 by ChocChipCookie)
www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3292904/posts

61 posted on 08/09/2016 10:05:19 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ( British historian Arnold Toynbee - Civilisations die from suicide, not by murder.)
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To: blam

Sufficiently high frequencies will pass through the mesh openings. A solid copper cage also requires spacing insulation isolating the protected items from the current in the metal skin—fiberglass would serve.


62 posted on 08/09/2016 10:10:36 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Bump, thanks TIK!


63 posted on 08/09/2016 10:10:52 AM PDT by PROCON (Americans First or Terrorists First - Choose in November)
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To: Dusty Road

Diode rectifiers???


64 posted on 08/09/2016 10:13:12 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: Ozark Tom
Ozark Tom :" The really large transformers could be an 18 month replacement item--better to protect against damage than lose one."

Do you remember about 2 years ago , a sniper shot at transformers at a sub-station that supplied electricity to the Silicon Valley ?
They shot .556 rounds at selected transformers in a secluded area, and were never found. Area of fire was selectively choozen, and marked with rock piles, and they were effective.
They took out that one sub-station, but the grid was able to cover the loss, and the electrical grid stayed up.
A fluke - maybe so
But it was well planned and executed, and showed exactly how vulnerable the rural locations of the electrical infrastructure of this country really are.

65 posted on 08/09/2016 10:16:43 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ( British historian Arnold Toynbee - Civilisations die from suicide, not by murder.)
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To: Dusty Road
OK I’m a little stupid on this one but just how bad would an EMP be? I have my own water well’s, gas supply with generator that will power the whole house. I understand the national impact but what about the personal?

There's a very low percentage of the population that has what you or I have. So, it would be catastrophic.

66 posted on 08/09/2016 10:29:09 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (It's gonna be bloody.)
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To: Gadsden1st
It is my understand that the pulse travels through the ground so to protect it, it would have to be disconnected.

Never heard about EMP traveling thru the ground. It will travel down the long power lines. It will invade anything not shielded (as in a Faraday cage).
Even if it is unplugged.

67 posted on 08/09/2016 10:34:41 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (It's gonna be bloody.)
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To: Ghost of SVR4
There is A LOT of work being done on micro-grids. These are independent 2MW grids

I have my own 4,600 watt micro-grid. With extra 4000W inverter and charge controller in a Faraday cage.

68 posted on 08/09/2016 10:37:41 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (It's gonna be bloody.)
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To: Nita Nupress
An EMP bomb over the continental USA, dropped into our atmosphere from a NK satellite

These are the 2 Nork sats that pass over the US daily. They are washing machine sized and emit no signals.
Sometimes they are both over the US at the same time. One over the West and the other over the East.

Nork1
Nork2
69 posted on 08/09/2016 10:46:29 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (It's gonna be bloody.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Any break along the transmission lines would take down the area being served. The geographic area of transmission lines versus substations is a relative consideration of grid vulnerability. Power lines in an EMP would be an enormous collector of energy to be dissipated; but, could be recovered more quickly than damages to substation equipment. Widespread disruption of the grid would require substantial time to incrementally load the generation gear; and, maintain stability upon a reset after a major disruption.


70 posted on 08/09/2016 10:46:39 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: TangoLimaSierra

Solar panels are semi-conductor devices and vulnerable-—do you possibly have a DC micro-water turbine generator?

http://www.homepower.ca/dc_hydro.htm


71 posted on 08/09/2016 10:53:27 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: painter; Dusty Road

I’d add a spare condenser and coil safely stored.
Condenser = capacitor
Ignition coil= long copper conductor on both the high and low side.

If the generator has an exciter for the rotating field, find a spare exciter.
I’m not familiar with an Ajax generator, but have quite a bit of experience with ST type 1800 rpm generators. If they are similar, I might suggest a spare rectifier as well.


72 posted on 08/09/2016 10:55:35 AM PDT by BigpapaBo (If it don't kill you it'll make you _________!)
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To: BigpapaBo

Good idea. It’s a good idea to keep spares like that no matter what happens.


73 posted on 08/09/2016 10:58:46 AM PDT by painter ( Isaiah: �Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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To: cba123

I listened until I fell asleep.

Thanks for posting this. It is serious threat that could be dealt with for about $2 Billion, he said. That’s chump change today.


74 posted on 08/09/2016 11:04:01 AM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Ozark Tom
Solar panels are semi-conductor devices and vulnerable

I have extra diodes for the panels as well. No water gen, but I do have a multi-fuel gen and 2 sources of water.

75 posted on 08/09/2016 11:18:09 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (It's gonna be bloody.)
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To: Dusty Road; dljordan; Gadsden1st; Twinkie; Ancesthntr; metmom; null and void; Nita Nupress; ...
"OK I’m a little stupid on this one but just how bad would an EMP be?"

Remember TEOTWAWKI?

That could be what you are facing.

To understand the possible consequence of an EMP attack in very realistic terms do yourself a favor and read this:

One Second After by William R. Forstchen


76 posted on 08/09/2016 12:56:19 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If Illegals voted Rebublican 50 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall!")
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To: blam

Did you try the radio test? I don’t want you to believe me without checking for yourself.

The FM radio broadcast service is “in band” for an EMP. That’s why this test is valid.


77 posted on 08/09/2016 2:42:17 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: TangoLimaSierra
Never heard about EMP traveling thru the ground. It will travel down the long power lines. It will invade anything not shielded (as in a Faraday cage). Even if it is unplugged.

The EMP flowing by a wire creates an electrical current. Just like wires spinning in an electrical field is a generator.

In the case of an EMP the pulse can be so strong that the current produced overwhelms the electronics in modern devices and basically fries them.
The device doesn't even have to be plugged into a wall socket, internal wiring creates enough to damage it.

78 posted on 08/09/2016 2:47:40 PM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Iron Munro

We have been “preppers” ever since “Y2K”. Made very
elaborate preparations, even down to getting a new
woodstove. Have used it in winter ever since. Know how to
prepare the stuff we store, too. - Our water well is fixed
for manual use, too. I learned to eat dried beans growing
up; for just about every meal except school lunches with
those giant REALLY homemade rolls. FANG has a wood splitter,
easy compared to manual splitting. Takes gasoline; we did
store some gasoline in a tank back in Y2K. Our woodstove
uses small amount of wood. At first, FANG would ramp it up
until the whole house was hot as a firecracker. I finally
got him to tone it down; so a couple of sticks of wood
burn real slow and last all day. - I’m 70, so grew up with
rustic accommodations. . outdoor toilet, Sears & Roebuck
catalog for toilet paper. - We’re still somewhat spoiled.


79 posted on 08/09/2016 3:41:56 PM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: cba123

Frame it as protecting essential infrastructure as a way to battle terrorists.

If you talk EMP or some sort of prepper’ scenarios, then you will lose a lot of people/support.


80 posted on 08/09/2016 4:09:07 PM PDT by Hulka
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