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The Tyranny Of Pop Music
Youtube ^ | June 15, 2016 | Roger Scruton

Posted on 07/30/2016 8:49:28 AM PDT by OddLane

A brilliant exposition of what's wrong with our society by one of my favorite modern philosophers.


TOPICS: Music/Entertainment; Society
KEYWORDS: music; popmusic; rogerscruton
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1 posted on 07/30/2016 8:49:28 AM PDT by OddLane
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To: OddLane

I’ll save for when I have trouble sleeping


2 posted on 07/30/2016 8:54:31 AM PDT by Donglalinger
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To: OddLane

I have been driven out of more than one store by the excruciating sounds of pop music, usually at deafening levels sufficient enough to interfere with your thought process.


3 posted on 07/30/2016 8:56:24 AM PDT by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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I always wondered who exactly actually listens to pop music


4 posted on 07/30/2016 8:58:23 AM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%en)
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To: OddLane
Things have gone to hell since Edison invented the gramophone... and get off of my lawn, too!
5 posted on 07/30/2016 8:58:56 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (An orange jumpsuit is the new black pantsuit.)
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To: dsrtsage

pre-teen girls


6 posted on 07/30/2016 9:04:16 AM PDT by 38special (For real, y'all.)
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To: OddLane

Yeah, we should all go back to listening to sweet melodic tunes from the 1940s and 50s. < /S >


7 posted on 07/30/2016 9:04:22 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (TRUMP THAT BEYOTCH!)
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To: OddLane
Good stuff. I have noticed many venues pipe music through outdoor speakers. For example, along the sidewalk at the entrance to restaurant.

Disney world was one of the first I recall doing this in the 70's and 80's. Now outdoor speakers and technologies are more commonplace.

I think it can add to ambiance in some cases, but in most, it's tiresome background noise. Take a trip to the country or go camping to enjoy the sounds of nature, stillness of the night, and quiet comfort. Noise pollution can be a stressor and I view many of the musak venues as a contributor.

8 posted on 07/30/2016 9:05:04 AM PDT by HonkyTonkMan
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To: KarlInOhio

Interesting that he includes Beethoven in his list of good music. Read some of the contemporary reviews of his compositions. Cranky old men like Scruton hated them and bemoaned what music had become: “a caricature of Haydn pushed to absurdity.”


9 posted on 07/30/2016 9:05:46 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (An orange jumpsuit is the new black pantsuit.)
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To: dsrtsage

He does;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPoiv0sZ4s4


10 posted on 07/30/2016 9:08:34 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: Donglalinger

Watched the whole thing. It is actually pretty insightful and not what you might think.


11 posted on 07/30/2016 9:09:30 AM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: KarlInOhio
I will confess to being a little long in the tooth, but I have been saying for years that every female pop singer (with Adele as a possible exception) sounds to me just like the next one.

They even use the same vocal phrasing when singing the Star Spangled Banner, FCOL.

12 posted on 07/30/2016 9:09:38 AM PDT by daler
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Did you watch the video? He suggests no such thing.


13 posted on 07/30/2016 9:10:09 AM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: daler

You are correct. There are several youtube videos that demonstrate that many pop songs consist of the same four chords. Musical tastes do reflect the intellect and educational status of a society. Listening to a symphony is much more mental work than mindlessly humming along to The Beach Boys.


14 posted on 07/30/2016 9:15:09 AM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: longfellowsmuse

I liked his suggestion that teaching children to “play” music changes their ear. He suggests bringing the art and enjoyment back to music rather than they constant tyranny of synth pop. Insightful commentary.


15 posted on 07/30/2016 9:15:41 AM PDT by HonkyTonkMan
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To: OddLane

Dear Roger. If philosophers had groupies, I’d be his. He’s a conservative hero, and richly deserves his recent knighthood for his services to Western Civilization.


16 posted on 07/30/2016 9:16:53 AM PDT by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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To: HonkyTonkMan

That is a really important suggestion. I have two daughters who are currently violin students who take lessons from demanding teachers. The very first thing that is taught is to teach the “ear” to hear pitch. If they can’t sing it, then they won’t be able to play it. Their teacher emphasizes the importance of listening to good music to develop solid musicianship. He is right. Most often the musically talented come from musical homes. My feeling is that this is not because the parent spent hours with a three year old Perlman insisting his F was flat but because his ear was trained at a very young age to what music can really be.


17 posted on 07/30/2016 9:21:02 AM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Yeah, we should all go back to listening to sweet melodic tunes from the 1940s and 50s. < /S >

++++

I'll correct your typo:

Yeah, we should all go back to listening to sweet melodic tunes from the 1940s and 50s.

And then I'll correct your content:

Yeah, we should all go back to listening to sweet melodic tunes from the 1960's, 70's and 80's.

No need to thank me. I consider it a public service. 😎

18 posted on 07/30/2016 9:23:51 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you should have endorsed. Big mistake.)
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To: OddLane

OUTSTANDING post. Thanks.


19 posted on 07/30/2016 9:24:07 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: OddLane

I hate corporate music, the crap that’s produced by big record companies and sung by some ditzy tart.

Give me those old time garage bands any day.


20 posted on 07/30/2016 9:25:07 AM PDT by dragonblustar
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