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Attempt to explain away ‘dark energy’ takes a hit
Science ^ | 19 Jul, 2016 | Adrian Cho

Posted on 07/19/2016 12:47:11 PM PDT by MtnClimber

For nearly 20 years, physicists have known that the expansion of the universe has begun to speed up. This bizarre acceleration could arise because some form of mysterious dark energy is stretching space. Or, it could signal that physicists' understanding of gravity isn't quite right. But a new study puts the screws on a broad class of alternative theories of gravity, making it that much harder to explain away dark energy.

The study is also path setting because it exploits an effect called weak lensing in which the gravity from closer galaxies distorts the images of more distant ones. "That's the future," says Bob Nichol, an observational cosmologist at the University of Portsmouth in the United Kingdom who was not involved in the study. "If you look to the next decade, there's going to be an explosion of this data."

Physicists had expected the universe's expansion to be slowing as the galaxies pull on one another with their gravity. But in 1998, two independent teams traced the history of the universe's expansion by studying type 1a supernovae: stellar explosions whose colors tell when they went off and whose brightness reveals how far away they are now. Both teams found that the expansion is speeding up, suggesting that dark energy is blowing up the universe like a balloon.

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TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: relativity
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1 posted on 07/19/2016 12:47:11 PM PDT by MtnClimber
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There is so much we don’t know.


2 posted on 07/19/2016 12:47:37 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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Or, it could signal that physicists' understanding of gravityelectricity isn't quite right.

Fixed it.

3 posted on 07/19/2016 12:48:51 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck ( Socialism consumes EVERYTHING!)
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To: MtnClimber

Over exposure to dark energy creates goths.


4 posted on 07/19/2016 12:55:09 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: MtnClimber

Dr Kaku says whenever we use words like dark matter dark energy or event horizon, it mean we’re clueless. We can make the math work by adding energy or matter into a formula but we haven’t really detected anything, only an effect.


5 posted on 07/19/2016 12:56:20 PM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: MtnClimber
Dark Energy + Dark Matter

The Universal fudge factors


6 posted on 07/19/2016 12:56:50 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: MtnClimber

I ment singularity, not event horizon.


7 posted on 07/19/2016 12:57:41 PM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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“The analysis is tricky, however.”

One sentence that I did understand.


8 posted on 07/19/2016 12:58:26 PM PDT by TexasGator
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” but we haven’t really detected anything, only an effect”

We really never detect anything. We only detect the effects.


9 posted on 07/19/2016 12:59:23 PM PDT by TexasGator
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Agreed. Dark energy just seems so counter-intuitive, I wonder if we just have the shape of the universe wrong.

Locality sucks. ;)


10 posted on 07/19/2016 1:01:47 PM PDT by linear (Fealty to no man or party.)
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Brilliant! LOL!


11 posted on 07/19/2016 1:02:11 PM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel (a government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: TexasGator

That’s what I said? I


12 posted on 07/19/2016 1:07:53 PM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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Spaghettification anyone?


13 posted on 07/19/2016 1:09:24 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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I’ll say it again. The entire understanding of our unverse relies on 1) The absolute “fact” that gravity is constant relative to mass throughout the universe and 2) That the that the speed of light is constant regardless of photon/light producing masses speed and trajectory relative to our perspective (and gravity).


14 posted on 07/19/2016 1:14:09 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (You couldn't pay me enough to be famous for being stupid!)
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What a relief! I really need to believe there is some unseen, unknowable (except by inference) force out there that is really driving things.


15 posted on 07/19/2016 1:14:24 PM PDT by Vesparado (The American people know what they want and they deserve to get it good and hard --- HL Mencken)
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Entropy Rules!


16 posted on 07/19/2016 1:18:39 PM PDT by linear (Fealty to no man or party.)
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Dark Energy Matters.


17 posted on 07/19/2016 1:19:24 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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For nearly 20 years, physicists have known that the expansion of the universe has begun to speed up.

An unproven hypothesis. Twenty years before that, they KNEW that the universe was collapsing.

We cannot see to the 'end' of the Universe, and do not even know if there is an 'end'. We cannot detect that which we have not , and never will see.

18 posted on 07/19/2016 1:25:02 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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"Dark energy" is a red herring, and this is very simple to demonstrate.

You see, they are trying to account for acceleration, and basic mechanics teaches us that energy doesn't cause acceleration. There are only two components in an equation for acceleration: mass and force. The mass is accounted for; it is the mass of all the objects in the universe. So what we really need to account for is the missing force, not missing energy.

Luckily, the force we are looking for is already accounted for in the equations for the theory of general relativity, it was just misleadingly labelled by Einstein as the "cosmological constant". However, if you look at the equation for this "constant", you will see that it is not a constant at all, but the equation for a force. This is a fifth fundamental force of nature, hiding in plain sight for over a century, but since scientists have been myopically focused on unifying the four fundamental forces we had already discovered, they have no interest in admitting yet another fundamental force.

One interesting fact about this fifth force, though, is that unlike electromagnetism or gravity, the magnitude of this force increases with distance! That property alone is enough to demonstrate that it is truly a separate force, distinct from the other forces we have already studied.

19 posted on 07/19/2016 1:26:13 PM PDT by Boogieman
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All discussions that physicists make about the universe take as a given that they are discussing the observable universe, not the universe as a whole. Just because they don't bother to restate that every time doesn't mean it isn't taken into account.
20 posted on 07/19/2016 1:27:49 PM PDT by Boogieman
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