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One of the world's greatest art collections hides behind this fence
New York Times ^ | May 28 2016 | Graham Bowley and Doreen Carvajal

Posted on 05/30/2016 6:24:20 AM PDT by Republicanprofessor

The drab free port zone near the Geneva city center, a compound of blocky gray and vanilla warehouses surrounded by train tracks, roads and a barbed-wire fence, looks like the kind of place where beauty goes to die. But within its walls, crated or sealed cheek by jowl in cramped storage vaults, are more than a million of some of the most exquisite artworks ever made.

Treasures from the glory days of ancient Rome. Museum-quality paintings by old masters. An estimated 1,000 works by Picasso.

As the price of art has skyrocketed, perhaps nothing illustrates the art-as-bullion approach to contemporary collecting habits more than the proliferation of warehouses like this one, where masterpieces are increasingly being tucked away by owners more interested in seeing them appreciate than hanging on walls.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Arts/Photography
KEYWORDS: art; doreencarvajal; geneva; godsgravesglyphs; grahambowley; newyork; newyorkcity; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes; notaboutthemoney; picasso; romanempire
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Fascinating story.
1 posted on 05/30/2016 6:24:20 AM PDT by Republicanprofessor
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To: Republicanprofessor

This is happening because governments have proven themselves untrustworthy when it comes to maintaining the “value” of fiat currency. They continue to print more and more of it. Why is it “not moral” to find something, anything, that can be expected to maintain or even appreciate in value and lock it away for the time when fiat currency collapses into valueless paper? The art will then be taken out and traded again for other commodities. It will again be visible to the public. But in the meantime there are countless copies the public can gaze on. As far as the original goes, we live in a world of private property. What is immoral about trying to maintain your financial status by keeping your private property safe and secure behind locked doors?


2 posted on 05/30/2016 6:32:29 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Republicanprofessor
Paul Mellon (Mellon Bank) has a large estate (2000+ acres) near Middleburg, VA (second wealthiest zip code in USA), which even has it's own runway long enough for a 727. On his "farm", he has a number of buildings which appear to be horse barns, but which actually contain $millions in art.

I was driving past one day with a friend who told me of another friend hired to replace sections of 4-rail oak fence @$107 per section (4 oak boards and post which total cost about $23 at the time). It was being paid by the National Trust for Historic Preservation, because it's an "old farm". I guess that is how millionaires keep their $millions!

The farm, site of a large annual horse auction/sale, was for sale at $70 million asking price, which I am sure didn't include horses or art!


3 posted on 05/30/2016 6:40:54 AM PDT by WVKayaker (What separates the winners from the losers is how a person reacts to each new twist of fate -D.Trump)
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To: Republicanprofessor
Paul Mellon (Mellon Bank) has a large estate should read HAD, since he passed in 1999!

BTW, here is the runway pic!


4 posted on 05/30/2016 6:43:54 AM PDT by WVKayaker (What separates the winners from the losers is how a person reacts to each new twist of fate -D.Trump)
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To: Republicanprofessor

Go on, Airnav and check out FL37 and see my runway.


5 posted on 05/30/2016 6:45:59 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (Go Trump, Give em hell BABY.)
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To: Republicanprofessor
Truckload of Art
6 posted on 05/30/2016 6:46:24 AM PDT by KevinB (Barack Obama: Our first black, gay, Kenyan, Socialist, Muslim president!)
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To: WVKayaker

A little late starting your turn onto final. I think you need to go around.


7 posted on 05/30/2016 6:46:38 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: WVKayaker
Paul Mellon (Mellon Bank) has a large estate (2000+ acres) near Middleburg, VA (second wealthiest zip code in USA), which even has it's own runway long enough for a 727. On his "farm", he has a number of buildings which appear to be horse barns, but which actually contain $millions in art.

Paul Mellon has been dead for years. His wife Bunny died a couple of years ago and the property is gradually being sold off in pieces, with most of the best parcels now gone.

8 posted on 05/30/2016 6:48:10 AM PDT by KevinB (Barack Obama: Our first black, gay, Kenyan, Socialist, Muslim president!)
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To: KevinB
I knew that and corrected. I did not know they were piecing it out!

Did you ever go to the horse sales? $millions on the hoof there, as well!

9 posted on 05/30/2016 6:51:25 AM PDT by WVKayaker (What separates the winners from the losers is how a person reacts to each new twist of fate -D.Trump)
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To: Gen.Blather
that can be expected to maintain or even appreciate in value and lock it away for the time when fiat currency collapses into valueless paper?

How many Picassos for a loaf of bread and a roll of toilet paper in Venezuela right now? I think art is a good holder of value against the continual grinding of inflation, but would be worthless in a hyperinflationary collapse. Also remember that gains in both art and gold are taxed as at a higher rate rather than capital gains so you get hit with high taxes for your attempt to fight inflation.

10 posted on 05/30/2016 6:52:18 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (An orange jumpsuit is the new black pantsuit.)
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“How many Picassos for a loaf of bread and a roll of toilet paper in Venezuela right now?”

Venezuela has been reduced to a pre-industrial culture but with guns and aircraft. They are back to barter. Actually, they are worse off than a culture that never knew fiat money and, as a result, stayed stable. What we see in Venezuela is end-stage socialism.

However, there are always rich, powerful people (drug dealers, well-placed politicians and people entrusted with warehouse keys) with plenty of whatever today’s currency is. They will trade for art if only to show how rich they are.

But, you are correct. An economy must be well on the way to returning to health before people with art can cash in. (Cash-in, or perhaps fiat-in, is the perfect phrase.)


11 posted on 05/30/2016 7:00:58 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: WVKayaker

No, never went to the horse sales. I went to a couple of the stable tours, though. Very impressive! I hate to see these old, huge estates being hacked up, but understand that that there aren’t many buyers for them in toto. I am looking at Paul Mellon’s autobiography, “Reflections in a Silver Spoon” as I type this (It’s raising my computer monitor so it’s at the same level as the others :-)). It was a pretty interesting read. He freely admits that his only real accomplishment in life was being the son of a really rich guy (Andrew Mellon). He wasn’t at all interested in becoming involved in business and was basically a bon vivant. He gets huge credit for starting the National Gallery of Art and donating much of his collection to it, however.


12 posted on 05/30/2016 7:02:38 AM PDT by KevinB (Barack Obama: Our first black, gay, Kenyan, Socialist, Muslim president!)
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... He wasn’t at all interested in becoming involved in business and was basically a bon vivant. ...

Friend told the story that one day, Paul asked his (male) secretary to get on the phone and invite 50 people with spouses/guests to a BBQ, but they had to be there before 5pm. He flew them to Texas in his 727!

I'd say that is the "good life"!

13 posted on 05/30/2016 7:08:47 AM PDT by WVKayaker (What separates the winners from the losers is how a person reacts to each new twist of fate -D.Trump)
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Do you remember that Bunny Mellon was mixed up in the John Edwards babydaddy affair? Bunny Mellon, who was 90+ at the time, contributed heavily to Edward’s campaign because she thought he was handsome and could be the next John Kennedy. When the Rielle Hunter story broke, Edwards sent his lackey to Upperville to meet with Bunny and ask for more money so Edwards could pay off Hunter (he told Bunny it was a campaign contribution). Bunny gave him the money. Bunny later got subpoenaed to give testimony when the Justice Department was investigating Edwards. After Bunny died Edwards and his daughter went up to the funeral and Bunny’s family wouldn’t let them in. LOL!


14 posted on 05/30/2016 7:11:05 AM PDT by KevinB (Barack Obama: Our first black, gay, Kenyan, Socialist, Muslim president!)
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To: WVKayaker
Friend told the story that one day, Paul asked his (male) secretary to get on the phone and invite 50 people with spouses/guests to a BBQ, but they had to be there before 5pm. He flew them to Texas in his 727!

I believe it. Damn secretary somehow left my name off the list! LOL

15 posted on 05/30/2016 7:14:04 AM PDT by KevinB (Barack Obama: Our first black, gay, Kenyan, Socialist, Muslim president!)
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To: Republicanprofessor

If they obtained it legally, it is their stuff. If not legally, then it should go to the rightful owner. I’m free market even if I don’t like the fact nobody will see these paintings and other works of art for decades. If I own a painting, I should be able to do with it what I will.


16 posted on 05/30/2016 7:55:51 AM PDT by refreshed
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To: central_va
A little late starting your turn onto final. I think you need to go around.

Ooooor - do a deep swoop and pull up to put some fum into it....

Been on a twin engine where the pilot (who let me sit in the co-pilot seat because I was the only passenger, and military, on a short hop to a bigger airfield during an assignment change) and when we got to the next airfield, he seemed a bit high for approach and he did the "rollercoaster" approach. Brightened up my day.

17 posted on 05/30/2016 8:05:16 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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Here in Western Pennsylvania I'm saddened to see old, once majestic barns crumble into themselves because of neglect

Some farmer could't instill the farming spirit into his kids he also wanted to educate in the big city

Water and oil ... they just don't mix

18 posted on 05/30/2016 8:22:25 AM PDT by knarf
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Sometimes “farming spirit” just isn’t enough in an age of megafarms.

I know a young fellow from downstate Illinois, grew up on a farm in a community barely larger than the dot representing it on the map. He openly told me that his parents required him to go to college...they’re prescient enough to see they can’t carry their small farm forward another generation. So, he’s moving forward as a civil engineer.


19 posted on 05/30/2016 12:25:35 PM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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To: refreshed

This doesn’t stop with artwork...I know of a fellow in Michigan’s UP that owns a railroad, and he has a load of RARE locomotives and passenger cars squirreled away in a former shop building, forbidden to the public. Though in this case he has some legitimate reasons for his attitude (past theft), it’s the same situation...his stuff, his rules.


20 posted on 05/30/2016 12:29:54 PM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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