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Why is R-22 Refrigerant so Expensive Now?
Pippen HVAC ^ | 5/28/16 | Pippen

Posted on 05/28/2016 6:59:35 AM PDT by central_va

I just got charged $200.00 for two pounds of R-22. 2 pounds!!!!


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Science
KEYWORDS: r22; ripoff; sucks
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IN a world where freon costs $100.00/pound nothing makes sense....
1 posted on 05/28/2016 6:59:35 AM PDT by central_va
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To: central_va

One word. No not plastics*. Regulation.

*”The Graduate”


2 posted on 05/28/2016 7:03:54 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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Could be a side-effect of the recent TSCA bill.


3 posted on 05/28/2016 7:04:14 AM PDT by Utmost Certainty
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I’ll go with EPA, perhaps other fed jerks.


4 posted on 05/28/2016 7:04:21 AM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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It’s illegal in the United States, isn’t it?


5 posted on 05/28/2016 7:06:28 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: central_va

Thats because Dupont developed an alternative to freon and convinced the greenies that its environmentally unsafe and they are the only place to save the environment and the keep the ozone hole from spreading


6 posted on 05/28/2016 7:08:50 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (My best insights get lost in FR's becaus e of meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: Steely Tom

Not yet, but it’s on the way out.


7 posted on 05/28/2016 7:09:52 AM PDT by Darth Reardon (Would I lie to you?)
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To: central_va
EPA phaseout with deadline of 2020.

The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) announced its final phasedown schedule regarding production and importation of HCFC-22 on Oct. 16. The order calls for an immediate drop from 51 million pounds allowed in 2014 to 22 million pounds beginning Jan. 1, 2015. Subsequently, 18 million pounds of new and imported R-22 will be allowed in 2016, 13 million pounds in 2017, 9 million pounds in 2018, and 4 million pounds in 2019. No new or imported R-22 will be allowed in the U.S. on or after Jan. 1, 2020.

8 posted on 05/28/2016 7:10:38 AM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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The only source for R-22 is reclaimed from existing machines and whatever new old stock remains. Thank the EPA.


9 posted on 05/28/2016 7:11:05 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: central_va

Algore thanks you from one of his mansions.


10 posted on 05/28/2016 7:11:08 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: central_va

You got ripped off, a 30lb bottle of R22 is only $275.


11 posted on 05/28/2016 7:11:42 AM PDT by eyeamok
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Just like new car models people wanted to change to something to make more profit. There are replacement products that are said to be more environmental friendly which means more money will be taken by the government. You can get a “license” to purchase refrigerants form a car parts store for about $20 which consists of an open book test mailed to a licensing company.


12 posted on 05/28/2016 7:12:36 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: central_va

Supply and demand.


13 posted on 05/28/2016 7:13:15 AM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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To: central_va

I was in the mobile AC supply business when the Montreal Protocol was put in place. It was nothing more then a taxing scheme. You are paying a little for the product and a heap of taxes that goes god knows where.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_Protocol


14 posted on 05/28/2016 7:13:58 AM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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Wholesale in our area is between $375 and $520. The price should be around $30 per pound.


15 posted on 05/28/2016 7:14:44 AM PDT by Sawdring
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Looks like I am going to buy more on Tuesday, though I rarely use R22, mainly on myself and family and friends AC. Most everything I do uses 134 or 404.

You can Always use Hot Shot as a replacement, but you cannot MIX them, it must be evacuated and then recharged and it is undr $300 for a 25lb Bottle.


16 posted on 05/28/2016 7:15:56 AM PDT by eyeamok
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I stand corrected. Must have been R-12. Been a long time since I worked on refrigeration systems.


17 posted on 05/28/2016 7:17:15 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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You got ripped off, a 30lb bottle of R22 is only $275.

A year or so ago it was up to $600/drum.
Some is coming in from China. Doesn't even smell the same,

18 posted on 05/28/2016 7:17:58 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: central_va

I used to drive buses for a Christian summer camp. One of the buses used R-12

The cost was insane. We finally ended up switching out to a R134 system. It was costing $1000 just for a recharge.


19 posted on 05/28/2016 7:22:45 AM PDT by cyclotic (Liberalism is what smart looks like to stupid people.)
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To: MileHi

If you got your R-12 system charged for that vehicle you got the last of a very good deal on R-12. You could have paid up to 3 times that for R-12.

Of course the person that charged your system violated federal law by not documenting that all the leaks were fixed on the system prior to charging, and by simply charging a system with R-12 that he did not even check for leaks. Thats assuming he legitimately owned the federally regulated R-12 and is maintaining required inventory controls and excise tax computations on its storage and use.

Ride in comfort, my friend!


20 posted on 05/28/2016 7:27:14 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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