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Disney v. Warner: How Captain America Beat Batman and Superman
NY Times ^ | May 26, 2016 | James B. Stewart

Posted on 05/27/2016 5:47:33 AM PDT by C19fan

Pitched battles between superheroes with huge fan bases? Check.

Enough explosions to flatten several Manhattans? Check.

Budgets over $250 million, not counting lavish marketing campaigns?

Double-check.

On paper, this season’s big superhero action films — “Captain America: Civil War” and “Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice” — from the rival studios Disney and Warner Bros. could almost be the same movie, so similar are their plots, action sequences and allusions to heavyweight themes of topical interest.

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TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: comics; disney; hollywood; superheroes
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To: cincinnati65
Teeney spoiler here: The movie adaptation has the Avengers team being required to register and become subject to the orders of a UN group, due to all the ancillary damage caused by their escapades in Avengers, Winter Soldier, and Age of Ultron. I won't give any more away, but let's just say that Iron Man and Captain America each had very personal reasons for agreeing to (Iron Man) and not agreeing to (Cap) register.

In real life, it would have gone something like this:

"Iron man, you are operating a flying suit, without FAA certification, in populated areas. Your suit is also equipped with destructive devices without BATF licenses. You will surrender your weapons or face fines that will leave even YOU bankrupt, plus imprisonment. And, by the way, the lawsuits over the damage caused by your creation, Ultron, will mean that you no longer have any money"

"Captain America, that shield of yours is US government property. Hand it over. Other than that you are just an extremely physically fit human. You are free to go."

21 posted on 05/27/2016 6:39:26 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: jsanders2001
The more I listen to people quarrel about stupid crap like this the more I understand why Muslims hate America. Maybe we do need hard time to bring us back to sanity. Not that I want it...

Posts like this really tick me off. It reminds me of when I once saw Ben Aflleck and other leftist weenies on Bill Maher's "Politically Incorrect" show when it was still on ABC. Ben, who was getting $12 million per movie at the time was decrying "American excess" as a reason Muslims hate us. Well, Affleck was wrong, and you are, too. Muslims hate us because they are stone-age cretins who hate anybody who does not submit to Allah and live like them. If they don't like to see Americans arguing over super-hero movies and other assorted trivial crap, the need to go eff themselves.

22 posted on 05/27/2016 6:46:07 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ('''Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small''~ Theodore Dalrymple)
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To: PapaBear3625

“Captain America, that shield of yours is US government property. Hand it over. Other than that you are just an extremely physically fit human. You are free to go.”
That’s pretty much right out of the movie.


23 posted on 05/27/2016 7:12:34 AM PDT by freefdny
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To: Vaquero
The last superman movie was ok......nothing to write home about.

Amy Adams as Lois Lane was BY FAR the best thing about that movie.

24 posted on 05/27/2016 7:22:27 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: cincinnati65
"The movie doesn't paint either as a "good guy" or a "bad guy". They're just two guys that seriously disagree on what the right thing to do is."

Well, one side espouses tyranny (Iron Man's group, who espouses the need to sign away the groups' ability to have freedom to act on what is RIGHT), and Captain America's group, who fight against the tyranny of repressive control and regulation by the government (and, most notably, the U.N. of all organizations), so I think that, in the greater scheme of things, this was an analogy to the "leftism Vs. Conservatism" battle we have going on in this country currently. It's hard not to side with Cap's team on this one if you are Conservative.

25 posted on 05/27/2016 7:41:05 AM PDT by EnigmaticAnomaly ("With the demonrats in charge, we find ourselves living in an ineptocracy.")
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To: C19fan
I got the opportunity to watch "Avengers: Age of Ultron" and "Capt America Winter Soldier" this past weekend and it was night and day the quality of the films. The Avengers one was an extended fist fight / explosion fest. Characters? Bah, who needs that! BOOM!

The Capt America one had actual character development, moral dilemma, and much more suspense. Yeah fist fights but better done, the stakes were more personal and there was more tension I thought. Way better movie. I can see why people would be anxious to see this next one.

26 posted on 05/27/2016 7:48:13 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (ui)
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To: DesertRhino

Good guy fights have a long history in comics. And not in comics. With good reason, those are the only fights the audience doesn’t know ahead of time who will win, that in fact the writers have to make the out come kind of vague. There’s a lot more grist for the dramatic mill in good guy fights.


27 posted on 05/27/2016 7:52:33 AM PDT by discostu (Joan Crawford has risen from the grave)
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To: jsanders2001

People discuss stupid crap in hard times too. Actually we probably do it more. It’s part of how we relax. Nothing makes tough times easier than containable conflict. The human brain demands relaxation.


28 posted on 05/27/2016 7:56:08 AM PDT by discostu (Joan Crawford has risen from the grave)
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To: C19fan

Not bad, for that type of genre:

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/captain_america_civil_war/trailers/11237893/


29 posted on 05/27/2016 7:59:51 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: jsanders2001

Yes you are here all the time as am I. . What you said is that that you understand why Muslims hate Americans with many America being fans of the genre....many of whom a FReepers.

That I felt was offensive. What else about Americans makes you understand what makes Muslims hate us?


30 posted on 05/27/2016 11:24:49 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Bratch

The best comics in the past few decades was the dark knight graphic novels a while back. I came around to comics in the mid-late fifties after the comic code was added to all comics. These were castrated comics. Thankfully I had an older cousin who introduced me to his pre code batman and other comics.

The leftist current comics just stink. Just More Marxist / Islam invasion propaganda pieces.


31 posted on 05/27/2016 11:37:31 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Bot a Ben Affleck fan at all, but he was one of the few good things in the movie.


32 posted on 05/27/2016 11:54:04 AM PDT by packrat35 (Pelosi is only on loan to the world from Satan. Hopefully he will soon want his baby killer back)
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To: Jonty30

BvS was like watching 3 different movies at once. Every scene was full of cool stuff, but all mashed together did not make for a good film.


33 posted on 05/27/2016 2:21:13 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: Mr. Blond

Yes.


34 posted on 05/27/2016 2:42:21 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Mr. Blond

I agree. Where Marvel has their movies mapped out until 2030, DC wants to try and get everything done in about 8 movies.


35 posted on 05/27/2016 3:11:17 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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