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Vanity: Where does this map go wrong?
Me with help from 270toWin ^ | 4/27 | Myself

Posted on 04/27/2016 12:48:30 PM PDT by TangledUpInBlue

OK, where's the weak link in this map/scenario? Is it Ohio? Nevada? This conservatively gives the beast NY, IA, and PA and Trump can still prevail.

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To: TangledUpInBlue

IMHO, Trump will get Romney’s 206 EV’s, and add:

FL +29
OH +18

That’s 253. He needs one other double-digit state (WI, MI, NJ, PA), and he’ll pick up one or two smaller states (eg, NH, IA, NV, ME, CO) minimum.

Trump will have lots of pathways. With Giuliani, he might even get NY. If he would get NY with Giuliani as VP, I would take that deal.


21 posted on 04/27/2016 1:10:03 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: TangledUpInBlue

IA, WI, and especially MI should all be flipped to Red, IMO. Plenty of disaffected blue collar workers / ex union here who would switch from Dem to Trump (net vote +2).

Flip NV to Blue for sure, too many illegals there.

I’d flip VA to Blue, CO to Red, and PA to Red, but I’m less certain about these. PA has disaffected blue collar workers similar to the other states going Red, VA has a lot of new government employees, and CO has a lot of angry voters over the election theft. CO will also be losing a few Democrat voters who only voted because they wanted to legalize weed.


22 posted on 04/27/2016 1:10:26 PM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

I don’t think your map is a good representation of the toss up states for 2016.

Everything blue starting from Virginia on up to Ohio eastward is tossup.

Expect Hillary to win contested states that have heavy democrat machinations (have experience cheating in), like VA and OH, Possibly PA.


23 posted on 04/27/2016 1:11:31 PM PDT by Fhios (Going Donald Trump is as close to going John Galt as we'll get.)
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To: Eccl 10:2

It would be amazing if he took Guiliani


24 posted on 04/27/2016 1:14:58 PM PDT by TangledUpInBlue
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To: Eccl 10:2

Can’t have Giuliani. Both P and VP candidates cannot be from the same state.


25 posted on 04/27/2016 1:16:38 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: Jimmy McGill

Things have changed for her since then.

There are non political sites I go to where the female participants are pretty left generally.

She has gone from being their Madonna to an object of loathing. And not entirely because of Bernie.


26 posted on 04/27/2016 1:17:13 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Northern Virginia messes that state up. He can get it back from NY/CT/RI and maybe PA/NJ. At least one EV in Maine.

Minority turnout will be down compared to 2012/2008.


27 posted on 04/27/2016 1:18:34 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("There is no limit to the amount of good you can do if you don't care who gets the credit."-R.Reagan)
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To: Eccl 10:2

I think guiliami is awesome but with trump almost 70. I think he’ll have to go younger.


28 posted on 04/27/2016 1:19:42 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: kosciusko51
Can’t have Giuliani. Both P and VP candidates cannot be from the same state.

Theoretically he could since he isn't going to win New York anyway. But there are better choices than Giuliani.

29 posted on 04/27/2016 1:21:20 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Genoa

National and world events between now and the November election will greatly influence the outcome.


30 posted on 04/27/2016 1:29:27 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The GOPe must be defeated.....the sooner the better.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Are you factoring in the voter fraud and outright cheating from the Dems?


31 posted on 04/27/2016 1:32:29 PM PDT by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Both states also have a very robust democrat voting fraud machine operating.


32 posted on 04/27/2016 1:38:28 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: LS

Yeah, I think you have a good point there. I know in Colorado there are a fair number of independents that are more conservative than the GOP. Plus if the Dems nominate Hillary, there will be lack of enthusiasm on the Dem side. Could flip the state.


33 posted on 04/27/2016 1:46:43 PM PDT by taxcontrol ( The GOPe treats the conservative base like slaves by taking their votes and refuses to pay)
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To: kosciusko51

Flat Bush vs Queens. That’s another state right? /sarc


34 posted on 04/27/2016 1:49:13 PM PDT by taxcontrol ( The GOPe treats the conservative base like slaves by taking their votes and refuses to pay)
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To: TangledUpInBlue
Nevada. Maybe Florida. Maybe Virginia.

A lot depends on who Clinton's running mate will be.

In any case, Nevada alone could swing the election one way or the other.

35 posted on 04/27/2016 1:57:40 PM PDT by x
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To: Lurking Libertarian; TangledUpInBlue

“If the Dems motivate a big Hispanic turnout, Nevada and Florida are in danger.”


Trump can completely short-circuit the Dems’ attempt to win via the women’s vote and the Hispanic vote by choosing Suzanna Martinez, the New Mexico Governor, as his Veep, or at least travel with her and mention her as having a significant role in his administration. She could even help to reel in New Mexico from the Dems.

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36 posted on 04/27/2016 2:05:24 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Eccl 10:2

“If he would get NY with Giuliani as VP, I would take that deal.”


I like the guy on many issues, but his visceral anti-gun attitude kills him for me for any national post.


37 posted on 04/27/2016 2:06:30 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: TangledUpInBlue
Trump just got started on the beast. His foreign policy speech today should silence the whole anti-Trump movement, and draw in half the Democrat voters.

I would not be surprised to see a 50-state blowout, even against massive fraud wherever there are electronic voting machines.

38 posted on 04/27/2016 2:09:20 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: DoodleDawg; kosciusko51

“Theoretically he could since he isn’t going to win New York anyway. But there are better choices than Giuliani.”


Uh, NO he can’t. Winning or losing one or another state in that circumstance is IRRELEVANT! The Constitution simply forbids the President and the Vice President from being from the same state. That’s why I knew that Cheney was going to be Bush’s Veep when he hopped on a plane to Wyoming a few days before the convention in 2000 - he had been a Texas resident while working for Halliburton, and needed to re-establish his Wyoming residency.


39 posted on 04/27/2016 2:09:48 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

When Cliton/Dems get finish with Trump Wall/Wacis, The Minorities/Illegals will be fired up, there will be same turn out as was for obummer.

Trump better pull over some of those blue collar dems yall keep referring to, because allot of Conservatives will stay home again, just like they did with Romney.


40 posted on 04/27/2016 2:15:33 PM PDT by corbe (mystified)
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