Credit to Pookie18
Posted on 04/19/2016 11:49:04 AM PDT by pgyanke
Credit to Pookie18
I don't know about you but I'm sick and tired of this election season. FR has turned into a bickering board of bitter bubbleheads, it seems. Where we used to see Ted Cruz as a principled conservative... we now attack anyone who likes him as a "Cruzite" or "Cruzombie"... what happened?
First, there was the attack against him that he played dirty tricks in Iowa by relaying an MSM message that Carson was leaving the race. What would you do? If you are in a popularity contest against multiple opponents, wouldn't you make sure that the votes of an ideological brother weren't wasted on a failed effort? It's a logical reasoning... and you don't have days to debate it in committee, you have minutes and seconds before votes are tallied. That Cruz apologized at all for this news media-inspired fiasco shows him to be the bigger man.
Then what? He's following the rules and gathering delegates? I thought we wanted someone who knows how the game is played and can win elections... silly me. The Trump supporters don't seem to realize that DT is not the closer he claims to be. He is riding a wave of populism but is losing on the rules because he is disorganized and unprepared.
Saying all of this doesn't mean I am anti-Trump... I am anti-Dem whether the Dem is Hillary, Bernie, or Biden. Doesn't matter to me. If Trump is the eventual nominee, he will get my vote to stop the Dem machine's destruction of our great country.
In the primary, though, I want the most conservative in the race who has shown he knows how to win. That man is Ted Cruz. Why he is slimed on a conservative board is beyond me... and it saddens me. Maybe he isn't your guy... fine. Why does he have to be slimed? If he does manage to pull out an upset... what have you accomplished but hurting our best chance for conservative restoration in this country?
Not so, here is Cruz’s policy on immigration of Muslims.
https://www.texastribune.org/2015/12/07/cruz-trumps-muslim-ban-s-not-my-policy/
From his current web page:
https://www.tedcruz.org/issues/secure-the-border/
Says the same thing, ban on immigration from certain states, but not a blanket ban.
Not....the... same.......as...Trump
My FIL is a Chabad-Lubavitch Rabbi.
I think it’s a requirement to be able to walk to 770 Eastern Parkway.
That steaming pile of socialist sophistry we refer to in polite company as "The New Deal Commerce Clause".
Can't wait to see what the Terrific Deal Commerce Clause is going to look like.
Some of the Trump people are just following the example of the man, himself.
“Because there are as many, if not more, LIVs on the right as on the left. Who knew?”
This election has certainly exposed that.
“The trashing of Cruz was never necessary. People should be explaining why Trump is conservative not engaging in ad hominem attacks on Cruz.”
They can’t explain that Trump is conservative so instead of saying nothing they resort to ad hominems against Cruz or Cruz supporters.
Put another lawyer in DC and see how much difference that makes.
Especially another Harvard lawyer who hasn't finished his first term in the Senate with a wife who has a career and two darling daughters.
Or buy a clue.
Trump is just the man you described.
And as for Trump/Kasich. I can handle for one of these guys separately (even as Cruz is my choice), but that COMBO almost would push me to the NeverTrumpNeverKasich camp.
Can’t do both of them at this point!!
you’re watching him but you’re not seeing you trying to explain away everything as consistent
the guy is doing anything any underhanded deceitful thing he’s lying cheating stealing and you guys are blind to it
that’s not a concern principle conservative that’s a crook
Good one.
Can’t do both of them at this point!!
I can't do Kasich...I'm thinking Trump could use his delegates and Trump could then give him a job polishing the silverware...
Two, he came across too much as being "holier than thou" (or he could be seen in that light). He certainly wasn't more dishonest than other politicians, but he could be made to look like a hypocrite more so than somebody who appeared to take ethics less seriously.
In the same way, he was "more anti-Establishment than thou" and "more conservative that thou" and anything he did or didn't do that fell short of the latest definitions of anti-Establishmentism or conservatism would reflect worse on him than on somebody who wasn't seen as having made such a big deal of his own righteousness. Once voters get into a populist, anti-Establishment mood it's hard for politicians who do have connections in DC to ride the populist wave.
Ted misjudged how important being the most conservative candidate was to becoming the Republican nominee. He also misjudged the relative importance of free trade and less government to the Republican (and even the conservative) electorate. The idea that voters were angrier at the US government's Import-Export Bank than they were at banks like the one his wife works for (or at companies that outsourced jobs overseas or relied on cheap, often illegal immigrant labor) was symptomatic of the problem.
People take the side they do in politics within the frame or circumstances of the time. If the Giants are playing the Eagles and you decided that to score a team would have to carry the ball ninety miles to the goal and the game would take several months, fans and players would lose interest. It's like that with politics, too, the idea that ordinary voters would always go with the very most conservative candidate just doesn't fly. Voters are more concerned with immediate problems, rather than fulfilling great ideological designs.
Trump stresses that aliens can only come back legally.
I know he has said early on that the people leaving the USA would have priority coming back in. Maybe it’s Trumps way of playing carrot and stick with the illegals. First get them out of the country.
From Trumps position paper:
“Immigration moderation. Before any new green cards are issued to foreign workers abroad, there will be a pause where employers will have to hire from the domestic pool of unemployed immigrant and native workers. This will help reverse women’s plummeting workplace participation rate, grow wages, and allow record immigration levels to subside to more moderate historical averages.”
As opposed to promising to use it as a bribery tool, forcing people in other states to buy Iowa votes for Trump at the gas pump.
It’s well to remember that another whole generation has come on board in our culture since FR began — the post-Sexual Revolution kids who were raised with media, MTV, computers, internet, etc. They are less educated in Western Civ, Christian values and basic etiquette in every aspect of life, it seems. Why should FR be any different?
Keep changing subjects all you like, it doesn't alter your original fallacy one little bit nor does it explain away the fact that Ted Cruz is just one more Harvard Lawyer making a lot of promises with no track record of ever accomplishing a thing.
Had he done so, you can bet your bippy that Trump would have remained in charge of Jeff Roe, and not the other way around, as it appears Cruz has been doing, submitting to Roe's down-and-dirty tactics and then denying them. Early on, Trump split with his longtime friend and advisor Roger Stone due to not wanting to run a dirty trickster campaign.
Hmmm what happened? Well, there has been a certain intolerance on the part of Freepers from BOTH camps to consider the alternitve canidat. Door swings both ways...Want proof? Well this little gem came in to me after lunch today:
4/19/2016, 2:25:13 PM ·
***VA to bushwon
Of course that doesn’t stop you and the rest of Trumpetteville from jumping onto the first anti-Cruz rumor like a starved maggot on day-old dog sh*t.
Nice comment from a Cruz supporter isn’t it?!
This attack evolved into a Trump supporter attack from my simple post asking if the poster had actually watched the video before dissing the video and the poster of the video...The poster attempted to discredit a campaign fraud video that was posted by a Trump supporter. Excellent video BTW.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3422485/posts
There were other things said, but I really took offense to this comment about maggots and dog sh*t as it was over the top and directed at ME and ALL Trump supporters...This type of comment is a daily occurrence for Trump supporters.
BTW, for the record, not everyone here has always been in love with Ted Cruz...I always have had concerns about Ted Cruz because of his H-1B 500% visa increase proposals.
This is the first I’ve heard of Trump trying to hire Roe. I hope Optiguy comes through with a link.
If you have the time, here are a couple of interesting videos showing some of his past activities that demonstrate parallels:
Donald Trump on Economic Recovery in 1991 (testifying before the House Budget Committee)
Trump: Congressional testimony on U.N. building renovation, 2005
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