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Trump’s Lies Are a Loyalty Test for His Followers
National Review ^ | April 2, 2016 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 04/02/2016 11:18:24 AM PDT by DrewsDad

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To: blueunicorn6

Quote:

Goldberg asserts:

” Trump Has No Clue What American Government Is All About “

What is American government about, Goldberg?

Goldberg asserts: “I bet Trump has paid more abortion bills than he will ever sign.”

That is an ad hominem attack and worthy of an ass-kicking. But seeing as how Goldberg can stoop that low while claiming Trump stoops that low, how about this:

Jonah Goldberg is the privileged, spoiled, Neo-Con son of a Belt Way hack. Goldberg was given a job at NRO because of his connections and not his talent. And this Neo-Con mouthpiece for the GOPe never met a war he wouldn’t send YOUR fly-over-country son or daughter to die in.

Jonah Goldberg is a chickenhawk coward.


41 posted on 04/02/2016 11:41:11 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: DrewsDad
Clearly? Many people see it differently than your clearly proclamation.

She immediately got on twitter and started her campaign. She never asked for an apology. Fields has a history of this very same sort of attack where she claims she doesn't want to be the story, yet makes herself the story repeatedly.

Better question is, is she telling the truth?

42 posted on 04/02/2016 11:42:09 AM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Steelfish

Here’s your “wonderful” Cruz. He’s such a fraud and you are so deceived.

http://detonite.com/cruz-campaign-gets-popped-by-federal-election-commission-again/


43 posted on 04/02/2016 11:42:10 AM PDT by Catsrus (I callz 'em as I seez 'em)
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To: dsc
Bill Buckley must be spinning in his grave.

I agree with regard to NR. But Buckley was not a Trump fan. He had disdain for Trump. Here is what he wrote:

Look for the narcissist. The most obvious target in today’s lineup is, of course, Donald Trump. When he looks at a glass, he is mesmerized by its reflection. If Donald Trump were shaped a little differently, he would compete for Miss America. But whatever the depths of self-enchantment, the demagogue has to say something. So what does Trump say? That he is a successful businessman and that that is what America needs in the Oval Office. There is some plausibility in this, though not much. The greatest deeds of American Presidents — midwifing the new republic; freeing the slaves; harnessing the energies and vision needed to win the Cold War — had little to do with a bottom line.

So what else can Trump offer us? Well to begin with, a self-financed campaign. Does it follow that all who finance their own campaigns are narcissists? At this writing Steve Forbes has spent $63 million in pursuit of the Republican nomination. Forbes is an evangelist, not an exhibitionist. In his long and sober private career, Steve Forbes never bought a casino, and if he had done so, he would not have called it Forbes’s Funhouse. His motivations are discernibly selfless. . . .

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44 posted on 04/02/2016 11:43:01 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: SubMareener

As a matter of fact, that picture you incessantly post is pretty darn accurate. Trump is done.

In the last week’s news cycle, Trump has not done one thing to gain him any support.

It’s been flub after flub, all revealing of his lack of character or substance.

And yet, the little trumpers fly onto a post like this to frantically defend the indefensible ... the Trump...

And all the ammunition they have is nasty and untrue posts about Ted Cruz. Just read all their posts here and find one that is substantive. You will get a prize.


45 posted on 04/02/2016 11:43:07 AM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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So, Just like every other candidate, successful politician, and pundit and their sycophantic supporters, huh Jonah?.


46 posted on 04/02/2016 11:43:46 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: Talisker

Name on thing in this contrived screed that wasn’t true.


47 posted on 04/02/2016 11:44:05 AM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: boycott

Post 2 or 3 blaming Ted for Trump’s failures.

I’m counting.


48 posted on 04/02/2016 11:44:50 AM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: altura

“Burn in hell?” That’s for God to decide. But that doesn’t preclude a thorough ass-kicking here on earth. And I bet the house 69 year-old Trump can beat the snot out of Pillsbury Doughboy, Jonah Goldberg.


49 posted on 04/02/2016 11:44:51 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: TTFlyer

Goldberg asserts: “I bet Trump has paid more abortion bills than he will ever sign.”

That is an ad hominem attack and worthy of an ass-kicking.

I think it’s a simple statement of fact.


50 posted on 04/02/2016 11:44:52 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: DrewsDad

“His “punish the women” comments were of a piece with his refusal to condemn the Klan on CNN. It’s not that he wants to punish women who have abortions — I’d bet he’s paid more abortion bills than he will ever sign — it’s that he thinks that’s what pro-lifers want to hear. It’s not that he’s a Klansman or that the pillowcases at Mara Lago come with eyeholes cut out in advance. It’s that Trump thinks lots of his fans like the Klan and he wants to pander to them.”

So this is a theory that Donald is courting the conservative vote despite not being a longtime conservative. It’s an interesting idea. There could be something to it, without it being the whole story. It’s been said that “a conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality.” If Donald is somewhat liberal but realizes that the liberal position on Islam is insane, that might explain a partial conversion to conservatism.


51 posted on 04/02/2016 11:45:10 AM PDT by ChessExpert (The unemployment rate was 4.5% when Democrats took Congress in 2006)
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To: CaptainK

What??

Rushing to post on twitter is wrong?

Somebody hurry and tell Donald Trump.


52 posted on 04/02/2016 11:46:23 AM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: Robert DeLong
The video and audio and the Jupiter Police charges support her statements.

Do you believe that Lewandowski told the truth when he tweeted?

@MichelleFields you are totally delusional. I never touched you. As a matter of fact, I have never even met you.

53 posted on 04/02/2016 11:46:31 AM PDT by DrewsDad (Choose Cruz - The Consistent Constitutional Conservative)
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To: DrewsDad

At then end of the article you copied and pasted this.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3416793/posts?page=1#1

No objection was present. That led me to think you agreed with it.

I met Jonah and his mother in the early 2000s. I liked the guy. He seemed to agree with our political outlook.

Then his mother went South and now he’s well down the road to Leftist paradise.


54 posted on 04/02/2016 11:46:47 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: DrewsDad

“Until Trump changed the subject to punishing women for having abortions,”

Wasn’t that a hypothetical brought up by Chrissy Matthewy?

A sentence so wrong on so many levels, it’s an irrational hate-Trump-jump the-shark moment for Jonas.

Too bad.

He’s old, the mind is going, time to retire.


55 posted on 04/02/2016 11:47:37 AM PDT by JPJones
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To: Steelfish

I am taking bets on who will be the last Conservative to turn the lights out on FR. From where I am standing, you are looking like a good bet. I applaud you for fighting the good fight for Conservatism among hordes of Trumpkins.


56 posted on 04/02/2016 11:47:57 AM PDT by gusty
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To: Steelfish

SteelFish, if you think you have any credibility left here, think again.


57 posted on 04/02/2016 11:48:04 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: ifinnegan

How about you prove it? Don’t bother. We all know Cruzers are bottom-feeding liars just like their bottom-feeding “principled conservative” candidate.


58 posted on 04/02/2016 11:48:19 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: DoughtyOne
But Cruz does NOT do it.


59 posted on 04/02/2016 11:48:52 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: DrewsDad
RELATED: Trump Has No Clue What American Government Is All About

That's a two edged sword...

This is my biggest Trump concern.

Running a successful business and being able to successfully govern are vastly different skill sets...

As owner of successful Trump Organization, Trump is the absolute boss, he leads and his people follow....you don't ..."You're Fired"...

In government, you are a leader by in large by consensus and compromise...

In government power is shared and there are many competing interests to work though...

I'm concerned that Trump will not be able to make that transition, I think he will try at first and become very frustrated with the process and start to govern like Obama...Dicates from the WH....

I hope I am wrong, but Trump as far as I can tell he doesn't suffer fools and government is filled with them...

You just can't say "You're Fired"...

60 posted on 04/02/2016 11:48:54 AM PDT by Popman (Christ Alone: My Cornerstone...)
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