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Former CIA director trashes Trump and Cruz on national security
Politico ^ | 2-22-2016 | NICK GASS

Posted on 02/22/2016 8:56:39 AM PST by Citizen Zed

During the Feb. 6 Republican debate, Trump pledged that he would support waterboarding and would "bring back a hell of a lot worse." Last November, Trump told an audience in Columbus, Ohio, that waterboarding works. "Believe me, it works. And you know what? If it doesn't work, they deserve it anyway, for what they're doing. It works."

Hayden disputed that notion Monday, saying, "We never did anything to anyone because they deserved it."

"This was never looking backward. This was trying to keep Americans safe looking forward. People can argue about what we did, but it was never, never a form of punishment," he said.

Asked whether Cruz's frequent calls to "carpet-bomb ISIS into oblivion" would be feasible, Hayden was firm.

"No, and it would be immoral"

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


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1 posted on 02/22/2016 8:56:39 AM PST by Citizen Zed
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To: Citizen Zed

meh


2 posted on 02/22/2016 8:57:41 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Citizen Zed

hayden can bite me.


3 posted on 02/22/2016 8:59:31 AM PST by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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The Establishment coming out


4 posted on 02/22/2016 9:00:15 AM PST by scooby321
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Former CIA director trashes Trump and Cruz on national security

I was expecting a quote from H.W.

5 posted on 02/22/2016 9:00:17 AM PST by PAR35
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To: Citizen Zed

Ha. The CIA has taken to killing terrorists rather than capturing them because they don’t seem to be able to hold them for ever or interrogate them to get information. It easier to kill them and gather up the evidence left behind. Killing is more acceptable to them than waterboarding.


6 posted on 02/22/2016 9:00:32 AM PST by Oldexpat
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To: Citizen Zed

I thoroughly disagree. It would not be immoral to blow the hell out of ISIS, anymore than what we dropped on Hitler and Japan.

Further, Trump did not say it’s punishment he just said he wouldn’t hesitate with water boarding or worse.

I’ve seen this guy on tv going on about how we can’t act that way in the 21st century. TELL THAT TO ISIS. They will respond by cutting your head off while you scream.


7 posted on 02/22/2016 9:00:53 AM PST by Williams (Dear God, please save us from the Democrats. And the Republicans.)
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To: Citizen Zed

I have met Hayden. He is an extremely intelligent man, who thinks out of the box...talents completely wasted by government after his distinguished military career. This article is blowing his comments out of proportion. General Hayden is giving his usual, analytical, emotionless responses. He did not judge either man, just stated the facts.


8 posted on 02/22/2016 9:05:58 AM PST by montag813 (NO MORE BUSHES (or Clintons) EVER...Put it in the Constitution.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Big time Bushie. Hayden is as establishment as it gets.


9 posted on 02/22/2016 9:06:15 AM PST by kabar
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To: Citizen Zed

Has the CIA ever acted for the good of our country?


10 posted on 02/22/2016 9:06:44 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Citizen Zed

that is why we are LOSING THE WAR ON TERROR
BRENNAN is even worse.... with his “diversity” priority.... how many times a day does Brennan get on his prayer rug and face mecca..???? he is obama’s yes boy...

limp wristed effeminate weak teeth grinding panty hose girly boys running the show....... pafuginthetic

TURN THE DOGS OF WAR LOOSE AND ISIS WOULD DISAPPEAR IN A FEW WEEKS

look at how quickly russia shut off the oil money and how quickly isis cut the pay
and rations... and people started to leave isis....

right now this stupid administration is looking for iran to fight our fight and at the same time funding isis.... so i say OBAMA IS A TRAITOR as are those who knowingly support his and Hillary’s stupidity and traitorous acts.......


11 posted on 02/22/2016 9:06:46 AM PST by zzwhale
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Does the twit think beheading people is moral. The CIA has fallen a long way. PC politics has made it all but useless.


12 posted on 02/22/2016 9:09:21 AM PST by nclaurel
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Hayden is a WUSS!


13 posted on 02/22/2016 9:09:33 AM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Also former NSA Director. When the “books are opened” he will most likely turn out to have been a bad guy. This is the guy who wants to do bulk data collection on all of us, but who turned down the cheap and simple processing algorithms that would have have actually caught terrorists if run on the foreign collection alone.


14 posted on 02/22/2016 9:11:29 AM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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So what did he say about Hillary and selling national security secrets?


15 posted on 02/22/2016 9:13:02 AM PST by Kozy
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To: Citizen Zed
All Hayden is objecting to is the use of the term "deserved it." Hayden would say the waterboarding was justified, and it had to be justified on the basis of something the target "did" (at least the acquisition of knowledge) in the past.

His objection is pretty thin.

17 posted on 02/22/2016 9:18:24 AM PST by Cboldt
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There’s another word for a cat that starts with a p. Good thing he’s a former.


18 posted on 02/22/2016 9:18:54 AM PST by McGruff (Ted Cruz has peaked. Time to get out before Rubio becomes our nominee.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Hayden still believes shovel-ready jobs are the keys to winning wars in the Middle East


19 posted on 02/22/2016 9:19:13 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (Save your wives, Save your daughters! Stop MUSLIM IMMIGRATION NOW!)
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It would be "immoral" to carpet bomb ISIS? WTF? Hayden needs to watch some beheading videos, or perhaps maybe hostages being drowned in cages or set afire and burned to death.

Hayden is a P*SSY!

20 posted on 02/22/2016 9:20:07 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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