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OREGON STANDOFF: 'The Portland Twenty-five', Seim on FBI: "They were there for violence"
2/13/2016 | Self

Posted on 02/13/2016 5:26:26 AM PST by Nextrush

There were two indictments unsealed in connection with the protest-occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge yesterday.

Newly charged were Geoffrey Stanek and Travis Cox. Stanek has been arrested, Cox has not yet been arrested at last report.

There are now 25 people charged in connection with the protest.

Back in 1968 when anti-Vietnam War protestors violently disrupted the Democratic National Convention, with f-bombs coming from their mouths and throwing excrement at the authorities, their leaders were charged.

Their supporters and the mainstream media dubbed them "The Chicago Seven".

Those now accused of protesting non-violently in Oregon may need a name, too. Perhaps "The Portland 25" might work for now.

With protestors outside the federal courthouse in Portland supporting them, the four who surrendered on Thursday appeared in court yesterday. They all pled 'not guilty'.

Greeting them with waves as they each walked into the courtroom was Nevada State Assemblywoman Michele Fiore, who witnessed their surrender. Maxine Bernstein of "OregonLive" wrote about defendant Sandy Anderson:

"A tearful Sandra Anderson blew Fiore a kiss and mouthed 'thank you' before she was led out of the courtroom."

Outside Nevada State Assemblyman John Moore told the media regarding LaVoy Finicum's death: "In my opinion Mr. Finicum was murdered at the hands of the Oregon State police and others federal agents as well. This man was trying to surrender, it's quite obvious on the video that he was..."

Moore went on to describe his own military experience with ambushes.

Activist Gavin Seim posted a new video last night discussing what happened when David Fry called him on Wednesday night during the FBI assault on "Camp Finicum" in the refuge parking lot, a call that led to the internet livestream viewed by hundreds of thousands of people.

Seim said: 'the FBI had nothing to do with peaceful resolution in this, people standing up, people getting the word out, patriots putting massive pressure. They were there for violence just like they always were and so make no mistake when that first night went down the FBI negotiators there were there trying to goad the patriots into violence. They wanted blood, they wanted to commit more murder just like when they assassinated LaVoy Finicum......'

The FBI is beginning a process of thoroughly searching the refuge and the buildings occupied, looking for 'evidence' and 'explosives'. Bomb squads from Oregon State Police, Portland City Police and the Oregon Air National Guard participating with the feds.

They are putting on quite a dramatic show, a show to nowhere to demonize those who stood up to the federal government's "War on the Cowboys" and their persecution of the Hammond family in Harney County, Oregon.


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1 posted on 02/13/2016 5:26:26 AM PST by Nextrush
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To: Nextrush

Nevada Assemblyman John Moore call LaVoy Finicum’s death a ‘murder’.

http://videos.oregonlive.com/oregonian/2016/02/in_my_opinion_mr_finicum_was_m.html

Gavin Seim video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpN4hEV92uc


2 posted on 02/13/2016 5:32:17 AM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS:REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Nextrush

What did they expect would happen?


3 posted on 02/13/2016 5:32:24 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Nextrush

Check it out.
This sh*t REEKS.
Lock and load, boys and girls.


4 posted on 02/13/2016 5:32:28 AM PST by Flintlock (-Our ballot box STOLEN, our soap box GONE, we're left with our bullet box, now.---)
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To: Nextrush

First off, it is evident that the lawless leftist communist regime and all democrats are at war against America and it’s Constitutional conservative patriots; no grievances will be allowed and no dissension will be tolerated by the political class Marxists who are all democrats and more than half of the rinos. This is the day of obamanation of America’s desolation. And our sins against God and His Christ have come to witness against all Americans, no longer the land of the free and no longer the land of the brave. We are just another nation fallen on the junk heap of historical once great, now dead, nations.


5 posted on 02/13/2016 5:42:36 AM PST by kindred (Time for a third party for Christians and conservatives and overtaxed patriots.)
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To: Nextrush
If those charged with crimes had wanted violence, there would be a lot of dead feds. None of the feds were even fired upon.

If Obama's minions had wanted violence, there would be blood in the snow. If Obama wants a dead cowboy, his corrupt followers will give him a dead cowboy.

We all know what each side wanted. The protesters wanted freedom and the rule of law. Those ordering the FBI's actions wanted an immoral second prison term for a single crime, followed by another successful land grab. Dead conservatives were just a bonus.

There are lessons to be learned from this, and I hope the good people of America will learn those lessons. Protesting evil is a good thing, but successful protesting is even better.

6 posted on 02/13/2016 5:46:40 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Flintlock
Lock and load, boys and girls

Amen.

(You have a similar tahline I see) :-)

7 posted on 02/13/2016 5:48:23 AM PST by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: DoodleDawg

Some might say the same about Occupy Wallstreet. And yes they were violent. We’re they treated differently.


8 posted on 02/13/2016 5:50:27 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: Nextrush

Oh please. Trust me. Had they been there for violence, there WOULD have been violence.


9 posted on 02/13/2016 5:51:32 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: Nextrush

"Our Hands Are Up - Don't Shoot"

"Are You Black muslims?"

"No, We're White Christians."

rat-tat-tat-tat-tat-tat-tat-tat..........


10 posted on 02/13/2016 5:51:43 AM PST by Iron Munro (The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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To: DoodleDawg

People would start paying attention.


11 posted on 02/13/2016 5:53:14 AM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: Nextrush

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/02/final_four_holdouts_in_refuge.html


12 posted on 02/13/2016 5:57:47 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Pollster1

Well said. Those here who cannot see the evil in their midst strain to hold the blinders on.


13 posted on 02/13/2016 5:59:53 AM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: Nextrush

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/02/2_more_named_in_indictment_lin.html


14 posted on 02/13/2016 6:00:15 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: dhs12345
Some might say the same about Occupy Wallstreet. And yes they were violent. We’re they treated differently.

People seem to forget that the police eventually cleared the Occupy Wall Street people out of their park and several hundred were arrested in the process. And since the Occupy Wall Street mob didn't take over any federal property then there wasn't a reason for the feds to get involved.

15 posted on 02/13/2016 6:00:21 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw
People would start paying attention.

Well maybe next time.

16 posted on 02/13/2016 6:01:19 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Iron Munro

This is the real use for American situated MRAPs. Protest all you want, just leave your “right to bear arms” locked away in your gun safe.


17 posted on 02/13/2016 6:03:12 AM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: Nextrush

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/12/oregon-militia-standoff-final-holdouts-plead-not-guilty-surrender-malheur-national-wildlife-refuge


18 posted on 02/13/2016 6:03:27 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: DoodleDawg

I think the interest will grow. Patriots gather their loins slowly.


19 posted on 02/13/2016 6:04:29 AM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: Pollster1

Define “successful.”


20 posted on 02/13/2016 6:05:53 AM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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