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'Death by GPS' in desert
The Sacramento Bee ^ | January 30, 2011 12:00 AM | Tom Knudson

Posted on 02/11/2016 8:31:39 PM PST by Utilizer

Five harrowing days after becoming stuck on a remote backcountry road in Death Valley National Park in August 2009, Alicia Sanchez lay down next to her Jeep Cherokee and prepared to die.

Then she heard a voice.

"I called as I approached, asking if she was okay," wrote Ranger Amber Nattrass in a park report. "She was waving frantically and screaming, 'My baby is dead, my baby is dead.' "

In the SUV, Nattrass found Sanchez's lifeless 6-year-old son Carlos on the front seat. "She told me they walked 10 miles but couldn't find any help (and) had run out of water and had been drinking their own urine," Nattrass wrote.

"She turned down a wrong road," Nattrass said in a recent interview. "She said she was following her GPS unit."

Danger has long stalked those who venture into California's desert in the heat of summer. But today, with more people pouring into the region, technology and tragedy are mixing in new and unexpected ways.

"It's what I'm beginning to call death by GPS," said Death Valley wilderness coordinator Charlie Callagan. "People are renting vehicles with GPS and they have no idea how it works and they are willing to trust the GPS to lead them into the middle of nowhere."

The number of people visiting Death Valley in the summer, when temperatures often exceed 120 degrees, has soared from 97,000 in 1985 to 257,500 in 2009. That pattern holds at Joshua Tree as well, which recorded 128,000 visitors in the summer of 1988. Last year: 230,000.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Outdoors; Sports
KEYWORDS: gps; gpsfail; recreation; travel
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To: dp0622

As someone with paesan blood invite you to come on down... Where things are different!

Ok, Delmonte Parchissi662?


141 posted on 02/12/2016 10:00:27 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftism is the biggest killer of citizens in the world.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
The number of people visiting Death Valley in the summer...
...if only there were some hint of danger in the name of the place...


142 posted on 02/12/2016 10:02:37 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: Squantos

I highly recommend that little rifle. We topped ours with Nikon BDC scopes. I can put every shot on a scuba tank at 150 yards. The Ruger mags were on sale at Cabela’s a while back and as luck would have it the included case has slots for 4 of them.

The whole rig even with the scope and mags is right around ten pounds and fits right next to the spare tire. Heck of a lot of fun to shoot. We went with the stainless version for obvious reasons. Worth the price delta IMO.

It’s got a pretty high Bond factor of its own if you ask me. LOL.

Check for sales. I got ours for right around $300 each IIRC. And we really like the Nikon glass. My eyes ain’t what they used to be. This getting old crap ain’t for sissies.

L


143 posted on 02/12/2016 10:03:06 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: anton

Morons. A $75 hand held GPS would have guided them out correctly.
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Not always. I have had my much more expensive GPS trying to herd me south of Portsmouth NH towards Boston when I was wanting to go to Maine. Repeatedly


144 posted on 02/12/2016 10:04:43 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftism is the biggest killer of citizens in the world.)
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To: Chickensoup

I need to!! Tired of NY at 47. Great when you’re in your 20 or early 30s, but i’m ready to see nore.

And now that I know paesani live there too, i’m definitely interested :)


145 posted on 02/12/2016 10:05:36 AM PST by dp0622
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To: dp0622

I think it’s a real term, but I couldn’t swear to it. I heard it from hubby.


146 posted on 02/12/2016 10:24:17 AM PST by jocon307
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To: Utilizer

“You have never met any one of these people in real life?”

People who frequent the desert? No, maybe one or two, counting you! One of my former co-workers used to go rock climbing every year, but I don’t really know where he’d go to do that.

I take it you are in Australia? Do you really have bears there? A bear in the desert, that’s really too much.

How about the kangeroos, can/do they hurt people in real life? I assume they wouldn’t actually eat one. Of course, you’ve got the dingoes, we know about them! I guess they are cousins to our coyotes.


147 posted on 02/12/2016 10:28:49 AM PST by jocon307
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To: Lurker

Ditto on the bond factor..... as well as the eye sight issues. I’m wussin up more these days. I can be in the lazyboy recliner an get hurt ! .... old age sucks at times.

10-22TD stainless is on the list. going shopping today.


148 posted on 02/12/2016 10:32:44 AM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Parley Baer

Been a long time since I was in saline valley. Last year we were driving by the road the leads to it and was buzzed by a fighter from China lake.

It was really cool and he waved by rocking his plane from side to side.


149 posted on 02/12/2016 10:38:08 AM PST by crusher2013 (Liberalism is Aristocracy masquerading as equality)
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To: FreedomPoster
Can you even still buy a good paper map?

If you have an AAA membership, you can order them for free every year.

For most of these issues, it isn't a GPS satellite issue, it's the receiver owners who don't bother to load periodic mapping updates per manufacturer directions.

150 posted on 02/12/2016 10:38:49 AM PST by meowmeow (In Loving Memory of Our Dear Viking Kitty (1987-2006))
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To: meowmeow
One of my favorite map sources...Yarmouth, Maine.

Put it on your bucket list.

151 posted on 02/12/2016 10:45:32 AM PST by Daffynition (*Security, confiscate their coats. Get them out of here. It's 10 below zero out there ~DJT)
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To: Squantos

I can tell you from personal experience that PLBs (EPRB) save lives! They SEND your coordinates to the AFRCC which in-turn contacts the authorities. It makes it a whole hell of a lot easier than doing a grid search and keeping track of multiple teams. with a PLB, you just GO TO IT! :-)


152 posted on 02/12/2016 1:36:56 PM PST by hiredhand
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To: Squantos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgRom5gINtI


153 posted on 02/12/2016 3:15:17 PM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: dp0622

I would help but the dinner bell rang.


154 posted on 02/12/2016 6:10:23 PM PST by Redcitizen
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I’ll take your word for it. Last time I had to travel that way, West Palo Alto (the ‘affluent’ section) was on the other side of Downtown Palo Alto, then Hwy 101 separated the rest (East Palo Alto) and you could visually see the difference between the two if you came off the highway to get some petrol.

I turned off the wrong way once, and within a block or two I realized I had made a major mistake, turned about and went back over the overpass to the other side of the highway to load up and then continued on.

Never made THAT mistake again.


155 posted on 02/12/2016 6:13:37 PM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the muzrims trying to kill them)
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To: umgud

Because, like, the GPS said it was the right way! (paraphrasing what I imagine she might have said).


156 posted on 02/12/2016 6:15:29 PM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the muzrims trying to kill them)
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To: tinyowl

I may be mistaken on this, but I was under the impression that it was a subscription-based feature. You don’t subscribe, you don’t have that feature.


157 posted on 02/12/2016 6:18:14 PM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the muzrims trying to kill them)
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To: Utilizer

DeLorme inReach is subscription but it is very affordable. About a two thirds of the way down the page is pricing:

http://www.inreachdelorme.com/product-info/inreach-explorer.php

SPOT is also subscription.


158 posted on 02/12/2016 6:24:05 PM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: Utilizer

I did not think she was blonde.


159 posted on 02/12/2016 6:32:52 PM PST by umgud
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To: crusher2013
People who think California is just LA and SF have no idea how big and empty some parts are and how different the people are.

Indeed. Here is a pic of where I live (NorCal):

People here are great. :)

160 posted on 02/12/2016 7:18:52 PM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the muzrims trying to kill them)
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