Fully appointed, of course.
Posted on 02/06/2016 4:56:28 AM PST by Nextrush
"In the light of recent events that took place today and conversations with the FBI and the people at the refuge, we have decided to stand down our PPN Call to Action"
Pacific Patriots Network "OFFICIAL STAND DOWN" 2/5/2016
"When the night sky glows with the red fires of war and the threat of annihilation pounds at your door you don't have to pretend its true got no nerves of steel to believe that the Love of the Lord is actual and real in this world thunder rocks in the darkness Out in the eye of the storm the friends of God suffer no permanent harm"
Mark Heard-"Eye of the Storm"
The Pacific Patriots Network issued a 'stand down' order yesterday regarding a planned march into the Harney County Resource Center (Malheur National Wildlife Refuge) this morning.
"OregonLive" reporter Fedor Zarkharin wrote: ".....BJ Soper, a founding member of the Pacific Patriots Network, said the group was going to escort the holdouts from the refuge. But Soper learned that the occupiers said they were resigned to die and that attempts to remove them would be met by force..."
PPN is instead directing their volunteers that were enroute to Harney County, Oregon today to gather at the site of Robert LaVoy Finicum's death for a memorial.
The original intention of PPN was to take the four people inside the refuge out and effectively end the occupation of the refuge to protest the injustice done in the renewed imprisonment of Dwight and Stephen Hammond.
Ammon Bundy said in his statement from jail a few days ago that the occupation was the right thing to do and the folks left at the refuge are following their leader even though he is not with them.
This whole 'patriot' operation reminds me of history from 1962 in Albany, Georgia where Dr. Martin Luther was sitting in a jail, refusing to be bailed out. King needed to stay in jail to keep the protest movement of civil disobedience against racial segregation building and going forward.
The Kennedy Administration needed to short circuit his protest to please the white Democrats of Georgia. JFK needed to hold the Democrat Party together with a go slow on racial issues policy which MLK rejected.
First Kennedy used the host of NBC's "Meet the Press" who tried to lure Dr. King out of jail with an offer to be the guest.
When that failed a Justice Department official was sent to Albany where he 'anonymously' posted bail to undermine Dr. King's protest movement, which ended in failure.
I sincerely believe that the PPN group including Idaho III Percent and Oath Keepers were doing pretty much that kind of a job on the protest Ammon Bundy launched because of the injustice done in the return of Dwight and Steven Hammond to prison.
They said at the beginning they opposed the protest. Then they got emotional about FBI action at the refuge and showed up all militarized in a way Ammon Bundy, LaVoy Finicum and the others there weren't. Ammon Bundy sent them away but not after they put on a frightening show for the media to spread around the world.
The PPN people all along have been trying to hurt Ammon Bundy just like JFK tried to hurt MLK in the early 1960's. I think its because they are afraid of any conflict or violence in this situation will hurting the Republican Party and its unity.
The GOP candidates for president echoed the PPN position in opposing the occupation protest and calling for a stand down from its beginning.
Since the days of RIchard NixOn, the GOPe has put a lot of stock, now more than ever since 9/11, in the support of law enforcement organizations and unions, even ones whose members may be supporting tyranny like Oregon law enforcement is right now.
The Oregon State Sheriff's Association issued a statement yesterday to oppose any actions deemed 'illegal' as a means of protest.
The statement reads in part:
"These militia men and women have broken into publicly owned buildings, disrespected Native American heritage and intimidated and harassed local residents and officials.
These men and women are asking for change, and we support their right to challenge our government to make change. However, we do not agree with or support any citizen or elected official who would advocate for change in a manner that includes illegal action, threats of violence, or violence against any citizen of the United States."
Perhaps this organization would be better named the "Oregon State Sheriffs of Nottingham Association".
Some one thousand people were on hand for the funeral of LaVoy Finicum in Kanab, Utah yesterday. The funeral procession was led by a group of men on horseback and followed by many dozens of men, women and children riding on horseback, including Cliven Bundy, LaVoy's friend and father of the now jailed Ammon Bundy.
Shawna Cox, released from jail after being arrested when LaVoy was killed, was allowed by a federal judge to attend the funeral. She is under house arrest at her Utah home.
"Oregon Live" reports that more than 30 memorial events are planned for Lavoy Fincium in 17 states this weekend.
To wrap up, my prayers are that God would Bless All, even those one might call enemies like the FBI, government officials and law enforcement.
General George Patton's speech and Pastor Martin Niemoller's admonition in a modern context might read like this:
"What did you do when they came for the cowboys and the ranchers, what did you do in the great war on the cowboys....well I did nothing because I wasn't a cowboy and well I shoveled political s**t on the internet."
Isn't it time to support the four people at the refuge with prayer as well?
I don't believe in guns, violence or the two major political parties and their operatives like the "patriots" mentioned above to do good at this point.
I would gladly welcome unarmed, non violent actions in the spirit of Dr. Martin Luther King, Operation Rescue and Gandhi outside the sphere of the PPN folks at this moment.
The FBI side already initiated violence in this situation, let them go Bull Connor on clearly unarmed people.
May the spiritual power of peaceful thinking and action be unleashed on the evil doings of the federal government in our Western states which have become entrenched over the decades much as the racial system called Jim Crow did in our Southern states in the decades following the Civil War.
And another General Patton "story" as portrayed in the 1970 movie. Patton trips over a sleeping soldier as he finds his new headquarters in disarray. The soldier rises from the floor and is asked by the general what he is doing. The soldier answers that he was getting some sleep. Patton responds that he should get back down sleeping, saying you're the 'only son of a ..... around here who knows what he's doing".
Well, Ammon Bundy, the late LaVoy Finicum and those arrested, charged and or at the refuge still when compared to the antics of the PPN seem to me to be the 'only sons of someone who know what they're doing' for better or worse.
If anyone wants to support them or the plight of Western farmers or ranchers, I hope they set the nonviolent examples of the past.
The only whining I see is coming from you.
I’m kicking you out of my fan club and off the Christmas card list as well.
Don’t squeeze it. It will only get worse.
Warning No weak stomachs allowed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81hiNEEQAu0
Uck...I made it in about 5 seconds lol. If there was a poll on here about who to kick off, that guy would have been gone years ago. He gives FR a bad name and never adds anything at all. Nothing. Sometimes he’s so bad it’s embarrassing.
It’s called slight-of-hand, as any good BS artist, like O and the D.C. cronies, knows by heart.
Don’t look at the uranium sale, don’t look at Oregon vs. every Occupy occupation, don’t even BLINK at the ‘fed. govt *owns” 90% of the West’ vs. Constitution...
It’s also another way to show the rest, “This is what is in store for you, IF...”
If you have a problem with something you are welcome to address me directly.
Hint: I wasn’t addressing you. Butt out.
Oh, by all means.. if you wish to instead be a little crybaby that talks about folks behind their backs be my guest.
Fun times ahead.
ping
Fully appointed, of course.
So now you are making threats? I did post to you about Nextrush’s threads you ignored my post. Get stuffed.
Oops prematurely misdirected post #49
I see no threats.
Lord knows I’d never tangle with anyone so bold as to be unwilling to spell out “hell”.
Rubber biscuit! ;-)
Good lord they look like jailbait.
Well, I hope not.
At my age anything under thirty looks like a different species.
It’s too bad Nextrush takes the time to appraise on the situation in Harney County only to have the thread hijacked by the FR resident retard.
An “ignore” button would be great to block out members that have nothing to offer.
Here, sweetie.. dry your little eyes and blow your nose.
Remember that the vanity was moved to Chat and that mean old
humblegunner was right about where it belongs. I know, it hurts.
You'll be fine, though.. your pretty darn tough.
You're good enough, you're smart enough and gosh darn it .. people LIKE you.
Most people develop their own “ignore” capacity by puberty or soon thereafter.
“Retarded” is a good word for those who don’t.
That’s very clever and insightful as always. I’m not crying, I’m laughing.
At you.
As obnoxious and repetitive as you are, I somehow feel a little* bad for you. Think about getting some help.
*emphasis on a little
Some things never change.
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