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How Trump got religion — and why his legendary minister’s son now rejects him
Washington Post ^ | January 21 at 5:38 PM | Paul Schwartzman

Posted on 01/22/2016 1:32:58 PM PST by TBP

Trump, who has described himself as a Presbyterian, has cited Peale and touted “The Power of Positive Thinking” during interviews when asked about the role of faith in his life and whether he has ever sought God’s forgiveness.

“The great Norman Vincent Peale was my minister for years,” Trump told CNN last July, a sentiment he repeated in Atlanta and in Iowa during stops in Ames and Dubuque.

Peale said he became upset last fall after reading a Politico article that claimed that Norman Vincent Peale helped shape Trump.

“It ignored the major focus and contribution of a spiritual and Christian nature that my father was making in humility and sincere desire to be helpful to other people,” John Peale said. “There’s the power of Jesus Christ that can effect that change. I never heard of anything that came out of Trump that had anything to do with that.”

Told that Trump praised “The Power of Positive Thinking” as “fantastic,” Peale said: “There’s no content to that statement. It’s like kids saying things are awesome.”

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Cheese, Moose, Sister
KEYWORDS: peale; tds; trump
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To: TBP
Can anyone honestly imagine Donald Trump will ever admit he was wrong to question John McCain's bravery? Can anyone conceive that Trump will ever say he was wrong to broadly characterize Mexicans as criminals and rapists? Can anyone conceive that Trump will ever say he made a mistake to call Megyn Kelly a bimbo? After all his bluster about Peale, Luntz pressed him about whether he sought forgiveness from God to which Trump replied, "I don't bring God into that picture."

Well, of course he doesn't. How can Trump possibly ask God for forgiveness, let alone anybody else, when he is unable to admit that he is wrong?

How was he wrong in your examples of him being wrong?

Is there any valid argument that John McCain is not a hero? Like, for example, the testimony of people who served with him? Yes.

Can illegal Mexicans be broadly categorized as criminals and rapists, according to all available statistics and evidence of tampered statistics? Yes.

Is Megyn Kelly a bimbo? Yes.

Was the question about seeking forgiveness from God insultingly overbroad and a political gotcha question having nothing to do with actual faith? Yes.

Seems Trump is batting a thousand in the REAL WORLD. Maybe that's why so many people like him. Sorry you don't.

41 posted on 01/22/2016 2:17:47 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: TBP
“It ignored the major focus and contribution of a spiritual and Christian nature that my father was making in humility and sincere desire to be helpful to other people,” John Peale said. “There’s the power of Jesus Christ that can effect that change. I never heard of anything that came out of Trump that had anything to do with that.”

I'm sure we all know who sits on the throne in Trump's life, and it's not the Savior.

42 posted on 01/22/2016 2:18:14 PM PST by ru4liberty (I wish FR were still "The Premiere *CONSERVATIVE* Site on the Net" :'(.....)
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To: TBP

Trump got religion in to get Iowa votes. That is all.


43 posted on 01/22/2016 2:20:30 PM PST by RginTN (Donald J Trump- why would the people of Ky want a rookie senator when they have Sen Mitch Mcconnell)
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To: hoosiermama

Excellent. But it would be good anywhere. Especially the South. And Texas.


44 posted on 01/22/2016 2:22:11 PM PST by KGeorge
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To: RginTN
So..Abdul Mohammad born in Saudi Arabia, to a Saudi father and American mother is Natural Born Citizen? Really? WOW just WOW!!!
45 posted on 01/22/2016 2:23:10 PM PST by entropy12 (Abdul Mohammad born in Saudi Arabia, to a Saudi father and American mother is Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: Pravious; TBP

Cruz supporters have been bashing Trump for criticizing Carson’s involvement with Second Day Adventists, an organization typically recognized as a cult for their teachings.

Yet here they are bashing Trump over his faith. The tactics of Cruz supporters are really annoying.


46 posted on 01/22/2016 2:24:16 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: entropy12

Trump, the clinton donor. Wow!


47 posted on 01/22/2016 2:25:13 PM PST by RginTN (Donald J Trump- why would the people of Ky want a rookie senator when they have Sen Mitch Mcconnell)
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To: DannyTN

I wonder how many of these “bashers” are just paid trolls. (both sides)


48 posted on 01/22/2016 2:25:21 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: TBP

Oh how I wish the MSM “vetted” Obama’s every formative thought and idea and adherence to them.


49 posted on 01/22/2016 2:25:45 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: RginTN

He is giving Canada born Cruz a run for his money!


50 posted on 01/22/2016 2:29:09 PM PST by entropy12 (Abdul Aziz born in Saudi Arabia to Saudi father and American mother is Natural Born Citizen? Really?)
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To: SeaHawkFan

Starts at 7:46

His answer was honest and thoughtful.

So he’s not all the way there yet .... Most people that call themselves Christian aren’t either.

I’m sick of the righteous indignation of others questioning at what point a man is at during his spiritual journey in rebirth

God will decide, not an anonymous SeaHawksFan, or anyone else for that matter.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?327045-5/presidential-candidate-donald-trump-family-leadership-summit


51 posted on 01/22/2016 2:29:48 PM PST by IwaCornDogs
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To: KGeorge

Yes


52 posted on 01/22/2016 2:30:05 PM PST by hoosiermama (Make America Great Again by uniting Great Americans)
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To: RginTN

Every businessman I ever had dealings with donated to both parties. So what is your point? You do not understand business?


53 posted on 01/22/2016 2:30:28 PM PST by entropy12 (Abdul Aziz born in Saudi Arabia to Saudi father and American mother is Natural Born Citizen? Really?)
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To: Texas Fossil

“Formulate and stamp indelibly in your mind a mental picture of yourself as succeeding. Never permit it to fade.” — Norman Vincent Peale


54 posted on 01/22/2016 2:30:44 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: longtermmemmory

Me too. I get the impression that Cruz would abhor the tactics of many of them. Then again, some of these last minute attacks coming out of the official Cruz camp makes me ponder whether Cruz’s nice guy image is a pretense too.


55 posted on 01/22/2016 2:31:25 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: entropy12

I know thats why trump will make great deals with pelosi & reid. They’ll get what they want and walk away happy & loving trump

Oh, bring back john boehner! Democrats liked him. He made such good deals


56 posted on 01/22/2016 2:36:10 PM PST by RginTN (Donald J Trump- why would the people of Ky want a rookie senator when they have Sen Mitch Mcconnell)
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To: TBP

Everyone like to make fun, but seriously has anyone ever shared The Gospel with him, has he ever received a Roman’s Road.
I was 22 years old before I ever had anyone share with me, and I hope someone CARES enough to share with him.
It’s so easy to judge and laugh about 2 Corinthians, but seriously, please share, in the name of Jesus, please share him!


57 posted on 01/22/2016 2:46:08 PM PST by conservativesister (And FReepers, please quit attacking each other. We're all in this together.-"JR")
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To: TBP

Positive thinking has it’s limitations. But nothing wrong with the concept.

“The Power of Ethical Management, is a great book”.

At this point in the game, the issue is who can help the US reverse all this ComDem Insanity and save the Nation from destruction.

We had some strange allies in WWII, we will probably have some in saving the nation in 2016.


58 posted on 01/22/2016 2:50:12 PM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: entropy12

If it was a national primary, or the candidates were campaigning nationally, that national poll might actually mean something at this point in the game.


59 posted on 01/22/2016 2:56:48 PM PST by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson, 1824)
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To: RginTN

LOL what do you think the “conservatives” just did to OMNIBUS Bill? They gave Obummer everything he wanted! Wake up and smell the coffee. The career politicians are either total dunces or are complete slaves of their ultra rich donor class.

Only a shrewd and successful businessman knows how to make GREAT deals. Time to learn how the world works.


60 posted on 01/22/2016 3:01:22 PM PST by entropy12 (Abdul Aziz born in Saudi Arabia to Saudi father and American mother is Natural Born Citizen? Really?)
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