Posted on 01/10/2016 10:01:39 AM PST by raptor22
Apparently you don’t know the difference between a personal opinion and a declaration of definitive truth.
“A Republic, madam, if you can keep it.”
Well, since I overlooked it, I guess my only available course of action is to deny that it is there and call you names.
What gets me is that people DON’T wonder why such a thing as citizenship is taken with such a grain of salt these days.
Not very long ago at all it was a big hot deal.
In fact:
The war of 1812 was fought over the concept of perpetual allegiance - Great Britain refused to recognize the reunification clause of our citizenship oath.
Seriously though, “dual citizenship” is NOW, as in right NOW, being promoted as a way to bring Globalization into being.
People better wake the F up.
I think he is doing that, the other as well and if Cruz is not VP he will become Supreme Court material.
I think he is doing that, the other as well and if Cruz is not VP he will become Supreme Court material.
Thanks ASA Vet. Please do not hesitate to send references. If I have seen something, there are many who may not have, and you have a reputation for accuracy and balance I for one of seen repeatedly.
I have read Ramsay and find it a usually concise and illuminating little document. Ramsay was also a medical doctor, and for a time, President under the Articles of Confederation. He wrote a multi-volume treatise on Colonial History before the Revolution. His explanation of the differences between a subject and a citizen, is a gem, and should be remembered whenever someone suggests that Blackstone, English Commmon Law, is our basis for making anyone eligible to the presidency.
Barack Obama, presuming his father was the Kenyan, is a Natural Born Subject of the British Commonwealth, in spite of Barack having been born in Hawaii. To his credit, Barack said exactly that on his website, Fightthesmears.com. Barack is eligible to become a Member of Parliament, which naturalized subjects are not. Here is Ramsay’s brief discussion of subjects.
“A citizen of the United States, means a member of this new nation. The principle of government being radically changed by revolution, the political character of the people also changed from subjects to citizens.”
“The difference is immense. Subject is derived from the latin words, sub and jacio, and means one who is under the power of another; but a citizen is an unit of a mass of free people, who collectively, possesses sovereignty.”
“Subjects look up to a master, but citizens are so far equal, that none have hereditary rights superior to others. Each citizen of a free state contains, within himself, by nature and the constitution, as much of the common sovereignty as another. In the eye of reason and philosophy, the political condition of citizens is more exalted than that of noblemen. Dukes and earls are the creatures of kings, and may be made by them at pleasure: but citizens possess in their own right original sovereignty.”
Ramsay’s Treatise was published in 1789, meaning he may have written it before the Constitution was ratified. John Jay didn’t write his note to Washington reminding him of the natural born citizenship criterion for presidential eligibility until the Constitutional Convention had almost completed its work in September of 1787. Ramsay talks about “birth-right” citizenship, “Citizenship is the inheritance of the children of those who have taken a part in the late revolution: but this is confined exclusively to the children of those who were themselves citizens.” He doesn’t explicitly discuss natural-born citizens, who are birth-right citizens born on our soil, perhaps because it only applies to one job, our presidency. For Cruz, Rubio, Jindal, and Obama, he made it clear that none of them is a birth-right citizen, and thus not a natural-born citizen.
Let me recommend to you, by way of one of the best informed FR bloggers whom I’d cite if I could recall his name, a wonderful few paragraphs in Thomas Paine’s Rights of Man, the Second Section, Combining Principles with Practice, Chapter IV, On Constitutions, wherein he compares England’s executive, the King or Queen, with Americas. It isn’t easy to find, but my tiny print paperback has it on page 206. Paine was delightfully merciless, and this is no exception. Just a taste: “The presidency in America is the only office from which a foreigner is excluded, and in England it is he only one to which he is admitted”
Obama, Cruz, Rubio, and Jindal were all born citizens of other nations, naturalized by Congress. This is not a new concept. Paine destroys the hypocrisy of the British legal system, created to protect the privileged. These four politicians have found the Constitution in convenient, and are getting their way using Alinsky tactics.
Sometimes like having cancer, it is necessary to cut out some portions.
Regardless, in the long-run, some places have a strong enough “Liberty Will” to maintain the flame. Texas will be such a leader with all except the worst rejoining.
Texas Governor Abbott’s official call for a Art. V Convention of States is a giant step in the right direction.
Well...I've got some good news and some bad news.
There's nothing wrong with the hardware. It's a software problem.
More specifically, it's all the malware that's been turned loose in our software that needs to be dealt with and removed.
It's a tricky repair, but once it's done, we, the people, and our Republic will be just fine.
I mostly just hope and pray that we don't require a hard reset or, worse case, we get yet another hack technician to do the work.
We've already lost a lot of core data stored in memory banks now badly corrupted and another hack wannabe tech could easily wipe the whole thing and all we had is gone.
Do you remember how big of a deal it was to allow non-American NATO commanders to command American forces?
I'm trying to remember when that change in doctrine and thought occurred and under which president.
Seems to be a tactic. Ignoring data and posters that don't fit and advance a personal/professional agenda.
Sometimes however, if the data is too hard to ignore, then its veracity will be dismissed altogether, usually followed by lame snark, some name calling, and generally a call for brotherly/sisterly like minded assistance and camaraderie against a common foe.
Fascinating spectator stuff to watch once you're not in the mosh pit with everyone else!
However, in that example, the deliberate ignorance could also be a function of personal denial while working through as yet unresolved cognitive dissonance?
Can't say for sure what's going on there without more info, but it's definitely curious.
>>Sending the unarmored helicopter Extortion 17, loaded with Seal Team Operators into a hot zone with no air cover<<
Should be called Operation Uriah, though that isn’t to imply BHO is any David.
I remember it but only vaguely. There is SO much to try and keep track of.
In context, the psychology involved resisting that change might be instructive.
In choosing "natural born" citizenship for the CIC, I'm betting that General Washington is demonstrating his working understanding of the concepts involved that is probably a bit better than average.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.