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The me times ^ | jan 9, 2016 | jdirt

Posted on 01/09/2016 9:36:28 PM PST by jdirt

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To: jdirt

Your premis is wrong. The law is actually pretty settled. Your straw man argument does not hold up.

Stop being angry and find something else to be pissed off about.


41 posted on 01/10/2016 6:12:51 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Yaelle
Is that true about Rubio?  I read that both his parents became U.S. citizens after he was born.

Is Rubio an anchor baby?

42 posted on 01/10/2016 6:16:41 AM PST by poconopundit (When the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic government. Franklin, Const. Conv.)
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Because the Constitution does not define "natural born citizen," we must look to the law to define it.

Yes. The law as understood by the framers of the Constitution, when they ratified it. You can't change the Constitution by mere statute. A constitutional amendment is required to do that.

If the birthers are correct that there are multiple types of born citizens, why doesn't the law reflect this? Why has not a single judge ever accepted such an argument?

Judges are also bound by the Constitution, having sworn to support and defend it, no matter what the legislative branch, or anyone else, may or may not do.

43 posted on 01/10/2016 6:38:12 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: poconopundit

I don’t know details about Rubio’s birth, but if his parents or even one of them was in the country legally (on tourist or refugee visa, green card), he was born an undeniably legal natural born American. Not an anchor baby. Now, if BOTH parents were illegal, the country is torn because the law is very unclear - right now the powers that be seem to think that these anchor babies are Natural born Americans. I personally think we need an amendment to make only children born to people legally in America citizens.


44 posted on 01/10/2016 10:01:07 AM PST by Yaelle (Since PC is not actually "correct," it should be renamed Political Pandering.)
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Obama never said he is a natural born citizen, only the he is eligible. He then produced a picture and told people - Secretaries of State, Judges, etc - to ask questions about it.

And they did.

Some people can’t tell the difference between piss and rain. Secretaries of State and Judges are soaking wet and not with rain. They’ve been made fools of.


45 posted on 01/10/2016 10:03:43 AM PST by Ray76
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To: jdirt

Well said and I completely agree that this is where it’s all headed, they want to dissolve the United States of America ultimately. The border. Immigration controls. The language. Judeo-Christian values. And ultimately capturing the symbolic essence and capstone of the American system of government, the Presidency. Hold the line, folks, only at the ballot box, the SCOTUS will not do it!


46 posted on 01/10/2016 12:00:01 PM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: Yaelle

Thanks. Yes, making the law very explicit would certain be a good move.


47 posted on 01/10/2016 2:52:58 PM PST by poconopundit (When the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic government. Franklin, Const. Conv.)
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sorry I didn’t know how to post a vanity. please let me know.

Don't worry. You did no worse than anyone else who has posted a vanity thread. I was just yanking your chain a little because vanity posts are ususally frowned on (because the intent of the owner of the website is that you post a 'source article' and then we debate the article.

One suggestion is that you include the following in the title. (Vanity) Many do that as a form of courtesy.

As far as the rest of your comment, you kind of lost me.

So... I'll just ask you this.

Do you think the next President (whomever it is) will be able to turn this nation around and lead us back to being a prosperous and respected world leader ?

48 posted on 01/10/2016 8:34:57 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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