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OBAMA'S LEFT : CHANGE AMERICA OR DESTROY IT

Posted on 12/21/2015 2:24:39 PM PST by windhover

I organized regionally for Conservative causes, including political, social, and Operation Rescue in the 80's and 90's; and have experienced the tactics of the Left first hand. They have not changed.

I think by now we understand that when Obama said he would "Fundamentally change America", he meant it. He means to change it politically, socially,culturally into an Egalitarian Liberal utopia with strong Marxist principles;the kind that are fundamentally flawed will never work and never have.

Yes,this belief is delusional to the point of mental illness, among the true believers. Since they have to deny the failure of Socialism to maintain this delusion, practically everything they say and do must be a lie; and their politics base on a lie, mischaracterazation, and personal smear.

If they can not change the Country to their view of a political system and social justice; influenced by a deep hatred for America as founded - they will destroy it if they can. Already we have seen great devastation to our Constitution, and every day Obama and his minions grow more desperate to complete the job before his term is up.

Lies, threat, smear, and every form of intimidation is, and will be used against any persons who dare to publicly oppose them with the truth. White Male Privilege,Racism, Sexism,Exploitation of the Poor, War Against Women. All is designed to separate, divide, intimidate, and weaken our resolve to fight them politically and in the public arena.

Unfortunately, our "Conservative" elected representatives have not distinguished themselves as "profiles in courage". and most of the fighting have come down to you and I. This is good, but over time can not succeed without strong moral leadership in Washington and the White House.

We may have one last chance to save the Constitution as written, and government, as intended through the political institutions provided for redress of atrocities against it.

It looks Donald Trump And Ted Cruz to me. We need Strong incorruptable people as never before.


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To: INVAR
Admiral James Stockdale, reflecting on his 7+ years spent checked-in at the Hanoi Hilton, described our situation well:
This is a very important lesson. You must never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end - which you can never afford to lose - with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be.

21 posted on 12/22/2015 12:11:44 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: magna carta

There are exceptions to every rule; you’re one of them.

I also live in a city, but not near the bad parts. Also, we’re in Texas, so the rules are a little different here than in the lieberal bastions.


22 posted on 12/22/2015 3:06:45 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: DuncanWaring

Too many people in America have put all their faith that this people and it’s institutions that have been wholly corrupted will correct this overthrow of our Constitutional Republic by those now in power via the ballot box and peaceful means.

They refuse to confront the most brutal facts of our current reality- because to do so means they would have to own up to a duty that few to none of them want to risk.


23 posted on 12/22/2015 3:32:13 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: SC_Pete
in addition, we need an Article V. REVOLUTION to restore the Constitution. Only that will sanitize our corrupt political system, balance the budget, reform the judiciary, rebalance power to the states, and re-strengthen the checks and balances that the Founders intended.

At this point, that will require bloodshed on a mass scale to implement even if it survives ratification. The Ruling Class and half the population WANTS the Fascist mobocracy we are currently operating under. They DO NOT WANT what you and I do, and they are willing to riot, burn, pillage, loot and kill to get their way.

The Representative Republic we were established by, is only be able to exist so long as this people were a religious and moral people. WE ARE NOT THOSE PEOPLE ANY MORE. WE ARE A MINORITY. As such, a Constitution and a rule of law that we once had cannot govern a corrupt, immoral and vicious people.

That's the plain truth, whether you accept it or not.

24 posted on 12/22/2015 3:45:30 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: INVAR

You may be right, but the state legislatures are our only hope at this point. Progress is being made.

Check out:

http://www.conventionofstates.com/


25 posted on 12/22/2015 4:13:40 PM PST by SC_Pete
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To: INVAR; Travis McGee

Have you read Matt Bracken’s prediction of what a Constitutional Convention would probably look like?

It’s in either the second or third book of his original trilogy (third/Blue, if I recall correctly).

There is a Cleansing coming, and it will be Old Testament in scope and nature.


26 posted on 12/22/2015 4:33:46 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: INVAR

It’s here:

http://www.enemiesforeignanddomestic.com/index.php?page=fesp


27 posted on 12/22/2015 4:34:45 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: SC_Pete

The lawless will never acquiesce to those seeking to restrain them by civil means.

Period.

Makes no difference how many state legislatures sign on to Amendments. Only moral and religious people abide the ‘law’. The wicked are a law unto themselves, and the wicked impose their will by the end of a gun and have no fear of We The People.

An Article V Amendment proposal is fine to establish the fact that civil means and recourse to petition redress and restore what were abolished by those in power now is no longer possible.

I will say this again; you cannot stop tyranny via civil means.

Unless and until those in power truly fear a moral and religious people doing what must be done to preserve their liberty - then the Constitution and what remains of our freedom is dead.

The Tree of Liberty has withered because few will even allow themselves to ponder watering it.


28 posted on 12/22/2015 6:17:34 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: DuncanWaring

What Bracken describes is certainly possible along with whatever the feds do to strong-arm local state legislatures. Cutting off federal money to states that are in non-compliance usually brings a wayward state to heel. They also do not defy SCOTUS - and right there we already know that whatever it decrees is considered “law” and a ‘done deal’ - even though in reality it is not.

But perception is reality - and so are big lies told often enough that the truth is regarded as false and whatever the masses are told is believed to be the truth.

I mean, I hear folks say that hijacking an Article V process is impossible because 2/3 of the state legislatures are never going to go along with whatever the Left wants- except just look at what was done over the Confederate Flag flap and tell me that state legislatures and mobs of activists cannot do aha they want anyway?

The rule of law is DEAD in this country. What we have now is the post-Constitutional Fascist era preceding despotic tyranny being imposed on the masses. Economic to start, then chaos, then by force.

All we have now is guns to our heads to force compliance to whatever the Beast at Mordor on the Potomac demands, and we lie to ourselves that we are still free.

Our own Representatives know where the power is going to lie once this coup we suffered is complete - which is why they keep handing more power to the Dictatorial Executive and refuse to uphold their oaths while scheming and crafting legislation in secret and passing behemoth laws of thousands of pages without a single legislator reading the contents before voting them into “law”.

Still we lie to ourselves that this is America and the Constitution is still the supreme law of the land.

It’s not. And DC and the Ruling Class tells us and reminds us every day that it doesn’t.


29 posted on 12/22/2015 6:28:51 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Ancesthntr

Are you in HOUSTON?
Don’t miss the video of the ISIS mock execution in France.
http://www.stopthemagnet.com/video/defending-saracens


30 posted on 12/22/2015 7:30:08 PM PST by magna carta
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To: INVAR

Agreed. That’s why we need President Trump—to use the power of the Presidency to protect the restoration of Constitution and our Republic. He KNOWS how profoundly our country is being subverted. That’s why he’s running. Is he going to make a campaign issue out of it? NO. He has enough to run on and win.

If the states impose term limits on Washington, pass a balanced budget amendment, repeal the 17th amendment, and reform the judiciary, I have no doubt that Trump would impose those changes and commit the full might and power at his disposal in protecting those changes.


31 posted on 12/23/2015 4:27:44 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: magna carta

San Antonio.


32 posted on 12/23/2015 5:11:50 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: SC_Pete

I am discerning signs of Normalcy Bias here.

Trump is NOT going to save us.

Neither is Cruz.

You are advocating using a dictatorship to do what you think Trump is going to accomplish, notwithstanding the overt evidence that the Ruling Class is going to ‘select’ our next ruler, and that next years’ election is just a shell game to placate the emoting masses who still think we are a Republic.

You cannot expect the rule of law to exist in a debased society flooded with third world squatters on Welfare supported by wicked people. Neither can you expect the law to be followed by the lawless except by the imposition of force - which few to none are willing to let their minds go.

We already have a dictatorship, empowered and created by both parties in D.C. Why do we think supporting our own dictator is going to restore a republic?


33 posted on 12/23/2015 8:53:50 AM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: INVAR

Where in the world do you get the idea I am advocating for a dictatorship? Trump does not have to be dictator, just the President. All he has to do is uphold the law, e.g. Constitution, as it will be amended and ratified by 3/4th’s of the state legislatures [38 states]. It’s a long shot but it’s the only one we have.

F-16s against BB guns? No thanks.

Please read up on how Article V. can work. Go to:

http://www.conventionofstates.com/

Click on LEARN. Read about The Problem, The Solution, and Why It Will Succeed. The Founders foresaw a situation like we face today—that’s why they included Article V. at James Madison’s suggestion. Please read up on it. The situation is not hopeless.


34 posted on 12/23/2015 10:11:27 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: SC_Pete

I do not see Article V being a solution in this former Republic. I only see it as establishing justification for what must be done.

The Constitution has been nullified and abolished by default at the hands of BOTH Political parties.

A Lawless government IS NEVER going to submit to restraints put on it by any efforts we make without bloodshed. Get that truth through your skull.

An Article V effort only works in a civil society that is grounded in morality and respects the Rule of Law. We no longer have a civil society. We have a corrupt, abased, dependent, lethargic and wicked society. The current government and half the population are advocating the abolishment of the Constitution and rights they disagree with. The wicked will not submit to righteousness, they will defy and subvert it and declare it to be evil.

Imposing law upon the lawless will require that which few to none are willing to risk, so all the talk of Article V saving us is as useless as hanging all your hopes on a single politician to high office to do the same.

Not. Gonna. Happen.

Only a moral and religious people are capable of freedom.

We are no longer those people.

We have become a minority.

Truth hurts, but there it is. If you do not understand exactly what you are dealing with in terms of the enemy and the battle space in front of you - nothing you attempt is going to succeed. It will be used against you and you will lose.


35 posted on 12/23/2015 11:47:20 AM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: INVAR

We are on the same team. But I am going to hope for the best—but prepare for the worst. I look forward to reading your posts as we go forward! Thanks.


36 posted on 12/23/2015 12:27:45 PM PST by SC_Pete
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To: INVAR

BUMPmark


37 posted on 12/23/2015 12:36:14 PM PST by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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To: SC_Pete
But I am going to hope for the best—but prepare for the worst.

Good idea.

Sadly, too many simply limit themselves to hoping for the best, and limit that hope to electing politicians to office.

I do not share that kind of hope.

My hope and prayer is for endurance through what is to come.

With my faith in Christ intact.

38 posted on 12/23/2015 2:38:13 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: INVAR

What you describe in a morally adrift America is unfortunately true, and the result of this, ultimately produces A hopelessly corrupted Democratic Republic.

We were warned about this by both John Adams and Benjamin Franklin; that our Constitution and Republic will work only for an honest moral people, in order to keep Them. It is only a matter of judgement If we have fallen beyond the point of recovery.

In the Declaration Jefferson listed 27 non negotiable grievances that lead to absolute tyranny. Those grievances showed the world our cause for just Christian Rebellion against the denial of our God ordained Natural Rights by the British Empire.

The Founders understood the nature of fallen mankind; and did all they could to allow for the people to change their system of government, by force if necessary, if it had become corrupted and fallen into Tyranny. This is why we make our Military Oath to “ protect and Defend (first) the Constitution, against foes;forigen and domestic”.

It is why Thomas Jefferson Wrote: “ The tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of Patriots and Tyrants”; and in the Declaration, “ it is their(the People) right, it is their duty,to throw off such government,and provide new Guards for their future security.”.

These are tools and guidelines our Forefathers gave us to deal with a government that has take more power than God has ordained from them, and has removed from us our God given Rights. We are told this will happen; and when it does we must pledge our very “Lives, Fortunes, and SACRED Honor to restore it.

I believe we are close to this point fellow citizens; but still have a realistic chance to use the tools left to us in this next Presidential election to use the electoral system, but we must support and fight with all we have and all that we are to elect those committed to Consitutional values, and the courage to stand and FIGHT the threats and temptations to corrupt him. We need a good and brave person, no other will do. This could be our best last chance.

We must expend every chance we have been given to make the system given to us by those who have gone before. Countless rows of white crosses and the blood of a million soldiers from Bunker hill to Shiloh and Ramadi require it of us.

Failing this; we the People of the United States of America, will show the world again that we have not forgotten how to risk it all, and pledge “our Lives our Fortuns, and our Sacred Honor”to restore our Beloved Country to it’s Sacred values.


39 posted on 12/24/2015 1:01:40 PM PST by windhover (DOWN)
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