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For centuries, Islam and Christianity were locked in a brutal conflict most have forgotten.
Daily Mail ^ | 11/21/12 | Tom Holland

Posted on 11/21/2015 3:58:36 AM PST by Kartographer

Unsurprisingly, then, during the 8th century, Muslims began to conceive of the world as divided between the House of Islam and a Christian 'House of War', sinister in its disbelief, obdurate in its defiance of the message of the Holy Koran. Sayings became attributed to Muhammad which cast warfare in the cause of the Muslim God as a duty of the Faithful, such as: 'I was ordered to fight all men until they say, 'There is no god but Allah.' '

Slaughtering Christians was cast not merely as an option for dutiful Muslims, but as a positive obligation. One veteran of warfare against the Byzantines gave a blistering retort to a battle-shy friend who had boasted of his peaceable pilgrimages to Mecca and Medina.

'Your worship is mere play. For you the fragrance of spices, but for us the fragrance of dust, and dirt, and blood flowing down our necks — which is altogether more pleasant.'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: churchhistory; daralharb; houseofwar; muslimworld; worldhistory
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A hatred as old as Islam itself.
1 posted on 11/21/2015 3:58:36 AM PST by Kartographer
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Until around a century ago the Christian population of the mideast was about 40%.

And the left pretends there is no persecution of Christians.


2 posted on 11/21/2015 4:00:14 AM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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There were also alliances between Christians and Muslims:

https://internationalhistory.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/book-review-of-allies-with-the-infidel-the-ottoman-and-french-alliance-in-the-sixteenth-century/


3 posted on 11/21/2015 4:08:19 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Kartographer

One old historian who has studied Islam put it to me this way. He said that not enough people were converting to Islam which angered Mohammed so he wrote the Quran to make its followers force people into submitting to it. It worked.


4 posted on 11/21/2015 4:10:06 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Kartographer

Our progressive liberal politicians want us to forget about history


5 posted on 11/21/2015 4:14:08 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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Mohemmed and Charlemagne

epilogue

6 posted on 11/21/2015 4:21:29 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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7 posted on 11/21/2015 4:24:14 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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We all know them except Obama has his version

Norway exports than all of the middle east taking out oil.

They can't make it without welfare

8 posted on 11/21/2015 4:27:58 AM PST by scooby321
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To: Kartographer

They lost me when I read them calling the Satanic Verses the holy koran, rather the unholy queeran!


9 posted on 11/21/2015 4:29:28 AM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Kartographer

Bump


10 posted on 11/21/2015 4:39:40 AM PST by Roses0508
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11 posted on 11/21/2015 4:40:20 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Kartographer

Tom Holland writes popular histories. Highly recommend.

http://www.amazon.com/Tom-Holland/e/B000APEALK/ref=dp_byline_cont_book_1

I have read “Rubicon”, “Persian Fire” and “Millennium”.


12 posted on 11/21/2015 4:43:39 AM PST by C19fan
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13 posted on 11/21/2015 4:55:08 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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islam is the anti-matter to Christian matter.

As Saudi Arabia give death sentences to anyone leaving the cult.

14 posted on 11/21/2015 5:17:17 AM PST by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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If they won’t leave us “infidels” alone, then nuke Makkah and kill ALL the jihadi bastards!

Otherwise be prepared to die standing up.


15 posted on 11/21/2015 5:20:18 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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But, but...those muslims didn't represent islam.

/s

16 posted on 11/21/2015 5:24:15 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: jsanders2001

Mohammed started in Mecca. In 13 years he made about 150 converts. He was eventually run out of town and fled to Medina. He changed his tactics to bloody jihad and conquered all of Arabia and beyond. Had he stuck to his earlier peaceful proselytizing we would never have heard of him or Islam.


17 posted on 11/21/2015 5:34:46 AM PST by all the best
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That’s historically correct. When Mohammad was at Medina, he was promulgating the First Given Half of the koran (only he didn’t know it would become only half at the time). He had a whopping 150 followers who bought into his plagiarism of parts of the Bible and the Torah.

How Mohammad came to the Second Given Half is speculation. However, once proclaimed, according to Mohammad himself, the First Given Half was null, void; there would only be the Second Given Half.

Present day confusion arises from the mishmash of scrolls, oral traditions, and tapestries from which the koran was compiled 200 years later - First and Second Half suras were combined as one whole.

Now the only way to tell the difference is to read the Hadiths and Sunnahs which chronicle the life and sayings of Mo in Islam’s four other ‘holy’ books, these are Talibari, Muslim, Isaq and Bukhari; Hadiths are Mohammed’s word to his followers, The Sunnahs are the history of Muhammad and; his motto (sic) was “Kill, kill, kill” ... not turn the other cheek ...


18 posted on 11/21/2015 5:37:23 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: SkyPilot; Travis McGee

I ran across the source video for those graphics last night. Excellent tool that shuts down the argument that the Crusades were the equivalent of Jihad.

The Truth About the Crusades - Christian Resistance Against Islamic Jihad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4ENPy0mqOE


19 posted on 11/21/2015 5:40:38 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Kartographer
PSST — Islam and Christianity still are!
20 posted on 11/21/2015 5:48:51 AM PST by MasterGunner01 ( Barbara Daly Danko)
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