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Matt Damon, Martian ecologist
SocialResistance.org ^ | 10-6-2015

Posted on 10/07/2015 9:25:26 AM PDT by Citizen Zed

In Capital (volume 3), Karl Marx observed: “In London . . . they can do nothing better with the excrement produced by 4 1/2 million people than pollute the Thames with it, at monstrous expense”. That would not have happened if Matt Damon had been around. Marx was railing against the loss of nutrients from the soil caused by contemporary (and modern) sewage systems. In Ridley Scott’s new 3D blockbuster, The Martian, Damon is inadvertently left behind on Mars by his NASA crew mates and is obliged to survive until help comes.

As is so often the way, inspiration strikes him on the toilet. We never find out if he was familiar with Marx’s views on ecology, but we do learn that he is a first class botanist. A rummage in the cupboards throws up some potatoes and the contents of the crew’s toilets mixed with some Martian dust allows him to make enough soil to grow a crop.

The fact that the film was released in the week that evidence that water may still exist on Mars was lucky timing. It was also a week in which another mass shooting in an American school and Donald Trump’s domination of the Republican Party nomination process reveal a dystopian irrationality in that society. Damon, one of the stalwarts of left liberal Hollywood, offers a defiant refutation of backwardness and irrational thinking. His approach to every problem is to “science the shit” out of it. By this he means that every problem with which he is confronted can be solved by using science and intellect. At times it feels like a promotional film for a university offering very advanced courses in physics, chemistry and biology.

It’s mercifully free of romantic interest and scenes of his bereft family. However, all the usual big budget stuff is there. The music to tell you what to feel; the reaction shots when something dramatic happens and endless joyful cheering when something good happens.

It’s a sign of changing times that the Chinese are shown as helpful allies with the maverick director of their space programme ignoring the party and lending the Americans a rocket.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Science; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: california; demagogicparty; hollyweirdo; limolib; mattdamon; memebuilding; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; themartian
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I thought the movie sucked and mainly due to the suspension of disbelief necessary to believe any of the science on screen is remotely possible.

Power to the Fecal!

1 posted on 10/07/2015 9:25:26 AM PDT by Citizen Zed
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To: Citizen Zed
Power to the Fecal!

They already have it!

2 posted on 10/07/2015 9:29:12 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Historians will refer to this administration as "The Half-Black Plague.")
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To: Citizen Zed

Matt...just shut up and start working on the next Bourne movie.


3 posted on 10/07/2015 9:30:46 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (I will not worship at the alter of Diversity.)
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To: Citizen Zed

I see Damon is promoting GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE on a huge scale.

On Mars, its OK. On Earth, not so much.


4 posted on 10/07/2015 9:35:23 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Citizen Zed

Actually the dork community says the science was pretty good.
http://space.io9.com/science-of-the-martian-the-good-the-bad-and-the-fasc-1734726471

And I enjoyed it. It’s nice to get some movies where none of the characters are @#$holes.


5 posted on 10/07/2015 9:35:51 AM PDT by discostu (Up-Up-Down-Down-Left-Right-Left-Right B, A, Start)
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To: Citizen Zed

As is usually the case, the book went into much more detail and was probably better. I haven’t seen the movie yet.


6 posted on 10/07/2015 9:36:19 AM PDT by bubbacluck (America 180)
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To: Artemis Webb

The Bourne Walker, Bourne Wheelchair, Bourne Geritol...


7 posted on 10/07/2015 9:36:19 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Citizen Zed

I have a friend who’s a sci-fi nerd. He didn’t dislike the movie, but thought the novel it’s based upon is much better.


8 posted on 10/07/2015 9:37:53 AM PDT by OddLane
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To: Resolute Conservative

You left off The Bourne Enema


9 posted on 10/07/2015 9:38:40 AM PDT by Noumenon (Resistance. Restoration. Retribution.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Thanks for watching it so I don’t have to. It’s still a shame that some of your money is going to the produces and actors of this propaganda.


10 posted on 10/07/2015 9:40:51 AM PDT by winner3000
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To: Citizen Zed

Science SCIENCE!!!
That’s a big NASA word during their press conferences.

“We gotta go , we have SCIENCE to do!”


11 posted on 10/07/2015 9:47:20 AM PDT by mowowie (`)
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To: Citizen Zed

In the book it was explained that he could use his own excrement because his bacteria was the only bacteria in the environment. That meant that his body had already created defenses against it.

I found the science in the book to be logical, explained, and plausible. There was no dues ex machina to come save the day.

If they stuck to the book, it was “doable.” The book took place over a couple years, so the timeline is probably compressed.


12 posted on 10/07/2015 9:47:30 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Citizen Zed
The problem I'm having with movies, these days, is that I can't get past the political butt-wipe pretending to be a emotionally sensitive superhero genius or incredibly witty raconteur who's being fed all his quips by some off-camera troll of some indeterminate gender, who couldn't get laid in a woman's prison.

When I can figure out whodunnit 20 minutes in, and I didn't read the book, why bother? Once you see how airplanes are actually built, to watch one slide a half mile through the trees and stop intact transcends silly.

13 posted on 10/07/2015 9:52:26 AM PDT by jonascord (It's sarcasm unless otherwise noted... This time, it's not.)
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I thought the movie sucked and mainly due to the suspension of disbelief necessary to believe any of the science on screen is remotely possible.

Haven't seen the movie yet but read the book twice. The author is a science/space geek and the science in the book is accurate...sometimes bordering on tedious. But it's very authentic.

14 posted on 10/07/2015 9:57:06 AM PDT by DouglasKC (I'm pro-choice when it comes to lion killing....)
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To: discostu
I haven't seen the movie but I read the book “The Martian.” The book explains the science in great detail. The whole narrative jumps from one problem—minor or major—to the next problem and how a solution is arrived at using very limited resources. It incorporates biology, chemistry, various fields of engineering, metallurgy, topographical navigation, etc.
15 posted on 10/07/2015 9:57:36 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Citizen Zed

I prefer the Aliens franchise much better.

Or Robinson Caruso on Mars.

There was just something about this movie... Maybe it’s the actor? I don’t know. I’ll have to just science the crap out of this sh*t.


16 posted on 10/07/2015 9:59:04 AM PDT by Dogbert41 (All the days of my life were written in your book before there was one of them!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

That’s pretty much the movie. Less detailed of course, but it works pretty hard to at least make it sound right, it’s not the usual SF “reverse the polarity” junk.


17 posted on 10/07/2015 10:02:35 AM PDT by discostu (Up-Up-Down-Down-Left-Right-Left-Right B, A, Start)
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To: Citizen Zed

Mmmmmmmm! Turdtatoes


18 posted on 10/07/2015 10:08:56 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Citizen Zed

"I'm Matt Damon!"

19 posted on 10/07/2015 10:26:51 AM PDT by anymouse (God didn't write this sitcom we call life, he's just the critic.)
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To: Vermont Lt

“The book took place over a couple years, so the timeline is probably compressed.”

In the movie he was alone for ~550(?) days...


20 posted on 10/07/2015 10:29:46 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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