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General Charles Gordon and the Mahdi [White Christian who fought the Mahdi, Caliphate, and Slavery]
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Posted on 09/12/2015 2:37:55 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski

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To: The Grammarian

Cool! You should post a picture!


21 posted on 09/12/2015 3:38:16 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Godspeed BwanaNdege!

Thank you!

My problem is that too often I try to travel/live life at my speed, rather than at God's speed.

Elisabeth Elliot often quotes a Hebrew translation of Proverbs 4:12 "As thou goest step by step, I will open up thy way before thee." Proverbs 4:12

Step by step...

22 posted on 09/12/2015 4:01:15 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("When the left wins, they're in power; when the right wins, they're in office." - Mark Steyn)
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To: CharlesOConnell

Phenomenal! Thanks for this thread.


23 posted on 09/12/2015 4:10:24 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski; All

Gordon was, in fact, something of an oddity. He was an unconventional and passionate evangelical, imbued with a personal theology which was intense, mystical and ascetic. He had been known to stick religious tracts onto walls, and even throw them out of train windows. He was much given to practical good works, visited slums, brought comfort to the sick and the dying and the old, and showed a particular interest in boys.

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“... energy which drove him into weird beliefs, eccentric activities, and a sometimes misplaced confidence in his own judgement. For example, Gordon believed that God’s throne rested literally upon the earth, which was in its turn enclosed in the firmament, that the Garden of Eden was on the bed of the sea near the Seychelles, and that most of the sites of the Holy Places in Jerusalem had been wrongly identified. It was doubtless his capacity for independent and eccentric thought, his taste for isolated command, and his almost messianic qualities ... that made his military and political superiors wary of entrusting him with really important assignments.”

http://www.britishempire.co.uk/biography/gordon.htm

“Gordon believed in reincarnation. In 1877, he wrote in a letter: ‘This life is only one of a series of lives which our incarnated part has lived. I have little doubt of our having pre-existed; and that also in the time of our pre-existence we were actively employed. So, therefore, I believe in our active employment in a future life, and I like the thought.’”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_George_Gordon#Personality_and_beliefs


24 posted on 09/12/2015 4:35:27 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Interesting...


25 posted on 09/12/2015 4:42:31 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Olivier was splitting his time doing “Othello” at the Old Vic, and just left the makeup on when doing the Mahdi. It was a b*tch for the studio to recreate the Sudan desert around Shepperton studios. They had to practically denude all the beaches on the channel to get the sand. I might be lying about the sand...and maybe a few other things.


26 posted on 09/12/2015 4:46:55 PM PDT by driftless2 (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5a/Skelton_Knaggs.gif)
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To: CharlesOConnell
Khartoum
27 posted on 09/12/2015 5:23:47 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Jan_Sobieski
On General Gordon's death. The classic Victorian painting shows a calm Gordon facing the Dervish assassins calmly. He is standing at the top of the stairs. I have two fascinating books pertaining to that era.

A Prisoner of the Khaleefa: Twelve Years Captivity at Omdurman.
Charles Neufeld 1856-1918.

Fire and Sword in the Sudan.
Colonel Sir R. Slatin Pasha.

Both men were prisoners of the Dervish forces. Both forced to become Muslim and in Neufeld's case marry a chosen woman. Neufeld was terrified he would make a wrong move and be tortured to death.

Neufeld was released by Lord Kitchener at the victory in 1898, over the Dervish at Omdurman. 11,000 fanatical horsemen charging the British lines were slaughtered . Maxim, Gardener and Gatling machine guns were used. (All American weaponry).

Neufeld, the interpreter to General Gordon, recounts Gordon attacking the assassins to the last. Slatin was lucky and bribed persons to give him two fast camels and finally escaped. He was an observer at the defeat of the Egyptian Army in 1883. The Dervish slaughtered the six British officers who advised the Egyptian army.

28 posted on 09/12/2015 6:02:07 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: BenLurkin
Like two other great Imperial heroes of his time, Kitchener and Cecil Rhodes, Gordon was a celibate. What this almost certainly meant was that Gordon had unresolved homosexual inclinations which, like Kitchener, but unlike Rhodes, he kept savagely repressed.

The repression of Gordon's sexual instincts helped to release a flood of celibate energy which drove him into weird beliefs, eccentric activities, and a sometimes misplaced confidence in his own judgement.

"What this most certainly meant", indeed.

This is unsubstantiated homosexual propaganda intented to burnish the reputation of homosexuality by attempting to link their practises to historical heros.

29 posted on 09/12/2015 7:39:11 PM PDT by Praxeologue ( ')
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To: Argus

You must be right. Having gone on one R&R to Khartoum in 1982, I was drawn to this thread. I found it fascinating. Good Job!


30 posted on 09/12/2015 8:33:06 PM PDT by Ax ("You'll Never Walk Alone" (LFC))
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To: Praxeologue
This is unsubstantiated homosexual propaganda intended to burnish the reputation of homosexuality by attempting to link their practises to historical heroes.

This rang a distant bell. I could hardly let it go with what I knew.

The Battle of Britain was a triumph for the RAF. Now in the war 1939-1945, Some cartoonist created a mythical figure of a fighter pilot. He was a fop, educated in England's so called public schools, the elite of Harrow and Eton Notable for homosexuality. He used his own language such as "wizard prang" etc.

Someone ran an article claiming the "homosexual British fighter pilots" defeated the " masculine Luftwaffe". It was generally mocked as "the gaying of the Royal Airforce".

A former RAF officer came on the television and explained that the heroes were Flight Sergeants, not the rakish fops depicted. He said they were the pick of the lower middle class. He said since homosexual relations were punishable by 7 years in prison, very unlikely they were homosexual.

A bit of a ramble by me, but it just niggled my mind, not to post.

31 posted on 09/13/2015 9:22:16 AM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Way belated, but this is Gordon. Haven't put a diff locker on it yet, but so far I've lifted it, given it 4.56 ring and pinions, and replaced the stock P255s with 35x12.50R17 Wrangler MTRs.

Gordon

Gordon in action

32 posted on 12/20/2015 6:39:26 PM PST by The Grammarian
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To: The Grammarian

Nice!


33 posted on 12/21/2015 1:30:00 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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