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Eastern Mountain Lions May Be Extinct, but Locals Still See Them
The Wall Street Journal ^
| 28 Aug 2015
| Jennifer Levitz
Posted on 08/29/2015 8:23:32 AM PDT by Theoria
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To: editor-surveyor
Different specific epithet:
Jaguar: onca
Mountain lion: concolor
Different genus:
Jaguar: Panthera
Mountain lion: Puma
Different subfamily:
Jaguar: Pantherinae
Mountain lion: Felinae
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posted on
08/29/2015 1:28:31 PM PDT
by
Engraved-on-His-hands
(Conservative 2016!! The Dole, H.W. Bush, McCain, Romney experiment has failed.)
To: Engraved-on-His-hands
Very much related to the orthodoxy of declaring a species extinct to erase the error of having declared it a separate species.
Until you’ve seen them in close proximity, then the name game fails.
.
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posted on
08/29/2015 1:33:05 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: editor-surveyor
Sorry, but you’ve jumped the shark on this one. Have a good day.
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posted on
08/29/2015 1:39:16 PM PDT
by
Engraved-on-His-hands
(Conservative 2016!! The Dole, H.W. Bush, McCain, Romney experiment has failed.)
To: Engraved-on-His-hands
Try #1
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posted on
08/29/2015 1:41:13 PM PDT
by
contrarian
(Here kitty kitty kitty)
To: contrarian
Interesting. I’ll go hunt around for my picture posting notes and post it here. I use trail cameras on a regular basis. (They are a world of fun.) The picture is fuzzy, but, if had to guess, I would guess that, if it’s not a huge house cat, that it is an immature mountain lion, but probably normal color phase. The coloring is obviously mottled in the photo, which I would guess is an artifact of the photographic image. If one had to choose between the light and dark sections, I would go with the light sections as the primary color, simply because it makes more sense to do so. If I had seen the picture without any context of location, I might have said jaguarundi. Something doesn’t look quite right about it, but I’m guessing immature mountain lion.
I’ll try to post the picture soon.
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posted on
08/29/2015 1:54:14 PM PDT
by
Engraved-on-His-hands
(Conservative 2016!! The Dole, H.W. Bush, McCain, Romney experiment has failed.)
To: Engraved-on-His-hands
86
posted on
08/29/2015 1:54:34 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: Engraved-on-His-hands
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posted on
08/29/2015 1:54:38 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: contrarian
This is a picture sent to me from contrarian:
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posted on
08/29/2015 1:57:59 PM PDT
by
Engraved-on-His-hands
(Conservative 2016!! The Dole, H.W. Bush, McCain, Romney experiment has failed.)
To: Engraved-on-His-hands
There were 2 more pictures I did not post. They show the back half of the critter better- shows the long skinny tail. the camera was about 10 feet from the cat.. I have seen it twice since then- one week later same spot. and one week ago in broad daylight 1/4 mile away as it ran across the road into a field ... I have also heard it scream like the mercury bobcat commercial... makes the hair stand up !!
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posted on
08/29/2015 1:59:15 PM PDT
by
contrarian
(Here kitty kitty kitty)
To: contrarian
Thanks for the help in posting the picture.. Obviously smarter than me.......
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posted on
08/29/2015 2:03:42 PM PDT
by
contrarian
(Here kitty kitty kitty)
To: contrarian
I’m trying to post an enlarged cropped section. Working on it.
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posted on
08/29/2015 2:04:59 PM PDT
by
Engraved-on-His-hands
(Conservative 2016!! The Dole, H.W. Bush, McCain, Romney experiment has failed.)
To: contrarian
for reference the object behind the cat is measured 4 feet long/tall.. making the cat approximately the same length when taking magnification into consideration.. definitely not a house cat..
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posted on
08/29/2015 2:07:18 PM PDT
by
contrarian
(Here kitty kitty kitty)
To: contrarian
Here is an enlarged, cropped section (hopefully):
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posted on
08/29/2015 2:07:50 PM PDT
by
Engraved-on-His-hands
(Conservative 2016!! The Dole, H.W. Bush, McCain, Romney experiment has failed.)
To: contrarian
I have been using trail cameras for about four years or so now. I have gotten some magnificent pictures that have enthralled my friends. They don’t realize, though, how many lousy pictures that I have to cull through to get the really good ones. Keep at it. You may get lucky (or even luckier, I might say) and get a better one. Good going!
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posted on
08/29/2015 2:10:48 PM PDT
by
Engraved-on-His-hands
(Conservative 2016!! The Dole, H.W. Bush, McCain, Romney experiment has failed.)
To: Engraved-on-His-hands
I am located in the mountains of N.C. about 70 miles east of Asheville. lots of wild life around here including bobcats, ruffled grouse, wild turkeys, red tail hawks all seen here in the last 6 months
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posted on
08/29/2015 2:16:06 PM PDT
by
contrarian
(Here kitty kitty kitty)
To: contrarian
I’m not too far from you. I’m between Maryville, Tennessee and the mountains. Live along a river. Same type of stuff here. We’ve only have a little more than an acre, but thus far I’ve gotten pictures of deer, red fox, gray fox, bobcat, beaver, otter, Canada goose, mallards, wood ducks, flying squirrel, raccoons, opossum, great blue heron, turkeys, and more. Still no bear pictures yet. We have had them on the property, but not often. We are still a couple of miles from the mountains. Lots of fun. Great area to live.
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posted on
08/29/2015 2:25:26 PM PDT
by
Engraved-on-His-hands
(Conservative 2016!! The Dole, H.W. Bush, McCain, Romney experiment has failed.)
To: editor-surveyor
- Family Felidae (cats)
- 37 species in 18 genera belonging to 3 subfamilies, found worldwide except Antarctica but introduced to Australia.
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- Subfamily Felinae
- 29 species, found worldwide except Antarctica, but introduced to Australia.
Genus Felis (small cats)
- 6 Old World species, including the wildcat and domestic cat.
- Genus Lynx (lynxes)
- 4 species, including the bobcat.
- Genus Prionailurus (Asian cats)
- 4 Asian species, including the leopard cat, flat-headed cat, and fishing cat.
- Genus Leopardus (spotted cats)
- 3 primarily Central and South American species: the little spotted cat, margay, and ocelot.
- Genus Oncifelis (South American cats)
- 3 South American species: Geoffroys cat, kodkod, and pampas cat.
- Genus Catopuma (Asiatic golden cats)
- 2 Asian species.
- Genus Caracal (caracal)
- 1 African and Southwest Asian species.
- Genus Herpailurus (jaguarundi)
- 1 primarily South American species.
- Genus Leptailurus (serval)
- 1 African species.
- Genus Oreailurus (Andean cat)
- 1 South American species.
- Genus Otocolobus (Pallass cat)
- 1 Asian species.
- Genus Profelis (African golden cat)
- 1 African species.
- Genus Puma (cougar, mountain lion, or puma)
- 1 New World species.
**********************************************************************************************
**********************************************************************************************
- Subfamily Pantherinae
- 7 species of Asia, Africa, and South and Central America.
- Genus Panthera (big, or roaring, cats)
- 4 Asian, African, and South and Central American species: the jaguar, lion, leopard, and tiger.
- Genus Neofelis (clouded leopard)
- 2 Southeast Asian species.
- Genus Pardofelis (marbled cat)
- 1 Southeast Asian species.
- Genus Uncia (snow leopard, or ounce)
- 1 Asian species.
- Subfamily Acinonychinae
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- Genus Acinonyx (cheetah)
- 1 almost exclusively African species.
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posted on
08/29/2015 2:34:34 PM PDT
by
Jeff Chandler
(http://www.freerepublic.com/~jeffchandler/)
To: editor-surveyor
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posted on
08/29/2015 2:44:28 PM PDT
by
Jeff Chandler
(http://www.freerepublic.com/~jeffchandler/)
To: Engraved-on-His-hands; contrarian
That's not a panther, that's a hyena.
; )
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posted on
08/29/2015 2:46:11 PM PDT
by
Jeff Chandler
(http://www.freerepublic.com/~jeffchandler/)
To: Georgia Girl 2
Had a ML do that about a month ago here in NE Alabama, wife thought it was the neighbor kid being attacked at 2 am. I told her no, just a big cat.
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posted on
08/29/2015 2:53:12 PM PDT
by
eastforker
(Cruz for steam in 2016)
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