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Need HR lawyer recommendation
n/a | 07/27/2015 | me

Posted on 07/27/2015 11:03:50 AM PDT by tbw2

I need the recommendation of an HR attorney / law firm in North Texas regarding an HR issue. At work, you can get 20 notices of "yeah, same sex marriage!" postings on the internal intranet. I posted one link to an article discussing why Obgerfell was such a radical decision, didn't even post the text. Was reprimanded that this was: A. a violation of diversity policy B. offensive to lbgta C. politicking at work

Had a separate issue where a woman asked for advice regarding her husband wanting to cheat on her with a man, but keep the family together. I advised that if she'd tolerate him cheating, whether with a man or woman, get disease testing, lay down strict rules on the propriety and don't let him waste her money on that person. And if she wanted to leave, I could refer her to a good divorce attorney. I was told this was homophobic and an inappropriate topic at work. I said an aggrieved woman was asking for advice, so if my response was inappropriate, so was the whole discussion. I stated to HR that a woman with four young children under 10 was seeking advice, so I gave what was normal advice 20 years ago. And the fact that she was repeatedly referred to spouses of same sex groups meant I was the only contrary opinion ... That was a prior warning.

Another case had a guy asking about advice on his 17 year old son coming out at homosexual at 15, now decides he's transgendered. Father asked advice, I said counseling to rectify mind with reality. That was homophobic/transphobic.

Telling a woman whose husband left her for a guy that it was so tragic a 30 year marriage ended led to a direct challenge with someone else. I stated that it was sad that he abandoned his family due to his feelings, that do what you feel trumps do what you promised to do and had been doing for decades.

I've received written warnings for these issues, in the past year. Don't want to get fired with this type of negative file, don't know what to do otherwise.


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KEYWORDS: civilrights; employment; jobs; lazy; liberalism; zot
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To: tbw2

I think you should find a lawyer who will take your case, give him about
$ 50,000.00 to get the case started and then sit back and watch what happens. You should not tolerate this kind of abuse. Hire a lawyer!


41 posted on 07/27/2015 1:12:26 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: tbw2
Other people at work are discussing these matters.

Sounds to me like too much gossip going on at work. I'd avoid it.

On another note, I think you found out the hard way that co-workers are not "friends", they are co-workers. I get along with everybody at work, smile, be professional, joke around but trust no one.

Our motto when I worked in HR "I am a sponge". Meaning of course, I absorb but I do not repeat and I do not give an opinion (as I am doing now lol). Sad to say in our new world, only the allowed opinion matters. It's a crazy world these days.

42 posted on 07/27/2015 1:19:40 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: 2banana; tbw2
3. If you are using a company computer on a company server - everything you do is being monitored and will be used against you.

I can't tell you the number of internal affairs investigations I have transcribed in my career where every keystroke, website accessed and time online not doing business related activities were paraded in front of the person being investigated .... both things like porn and doing business not related to their job to harmless things like checking the weather.

They can drag up EVERYTHING, and will, if they want to get rid of you. You are getting some good advice on this thread. I hope it's not too late but in today's hyper-leftist environment only say and do work-related things at work.

43 posted on 07/27/2015 1:23:38 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: tbw2

Go NUCLEAR or leave the company.... best bet may be to go nuclear AND leave the company ... lawyer up , threaten a multi-million dollar suit and accept a golden parachute..

I don’t do crazy , you don’t do crazy , apparently THIS company does crazy .. staying on and NOT fighting will end badly.

Seek out the law firms the Catholic Church and/or the crisis pregnancy centers use.


44 posted on 07/27/2015 1:39:48 PM PDT by Neidermeyer ("Our courts should not be collection agencies for crooks." — John Waihee, Governor of Hawaii, 1986-)
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To: tbw2

OH ,, save all the e:mails and postings on the subject ,, pro or con ,, save them all ... get a high capacity memory stick and read up on the tutorials for your e:mail client.


45 posted on 07/27/2015 1:41:29 PM PDT by Neidermeyer ("Our courts should not be collection agencies for crooks." — John Waihee, Governor of Hawaii, 1986-)
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To: Neidermeyer; tbw2

If he’s posting his views on Facebook - and if he is they have undoubtedly looked at them - they can’t legally use that against him, right, unless he’s posting his views on company time?


46 posted on 07/27/2015 1:59:55 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Lizavetta

Internal company intranet, not facebook.


47 posted on 07/27/2015 2:16:31 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Lizavetta

If he’s posting his views on Facebook - and if he is they have undoubtedly looked at them - they can’t legally use that against him, right, unless he’s posting his views on company time?
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NEGATIVE ,, They will fire him without giving ANY stated reason at all... they will certainly NOT mention any of this pink mafia BS ,, they will not willingly give him any ammo. He should NOT be using FB at all at home work or anywhere ... The best move is an attack ... defense sucks when the opponent can hide evidence or deny deny deny ... HOSTILE WORK ENVIRONMENT ... he should have his lawyer contact his HR and demand that they take action... At the same time he should put them on notice that they must retain all records electronic or otherwise.

I put up with this BS years ago ,, racial then , not gender... get what you can with no negative entries on his employment record and escape to a job he creates ... NO BOSS!!!


48 posted on 07/27/2015 2:20:27 PM PDT by Neidermeyer ("Our courts should not be collection agencies for crooks." — John Waihee, Governor of Hawaii, 1986-)
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To: tbw2

I’ll check the bottom of my shoe.....hmmm...no lawyer there today....guess you’re out of luck....


49 posted on 07/27/2015 2:28:10 PM PDT by unread
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To: tbw2

No, I understood that. I meant are you also posting your opinions on FB.


50 posted on 07/27/2015 2:37:15 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Neidermeyer

It’s times like this, even though the pay isn’t very good, that I am an independent contractor working from home .... FAR FAR AWAY from office politics, PC douchebaggery and co-workers who tattle to HR.


51 posted on 07/27/2015 2:40:35 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Neidermeyer

These online discussions are not on Facebook, but on the company’s internal system, where people are actually asking questions like this.


52 posted on 07/27/2015 3:00:45 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Lizavetta

The last corporate job I had the HR director announced she had stage 4 breast cancer... We all met at a local Restaurant and had a party that night... nobody NOBODY gave a dime for flowers or attended her funeral.


53 posted on 07/27/2015 3:15:55 PM PDT by Neidermeyer ("Our courts should not be collection agencies for crooks." — John Waihee, Governor of Hawaii, 1986-)
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To: tbw2

These online discussions are not on Facebook, but on the company’s internal system, where people are actually asking questions like this.
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Is it generally accepted that it’s OK to solicit advice on that system? DOCUMENT IT.


54 posted on 07/27/2015 3:18:28 PM PDT by Neidermeyer ("Our courts should not be collection agencies for crooks." — John Waihee, Governor of Hawaii, 1986-)
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To: tbw2
Okay, let me try one more time.

Are you ALSO posting things like what you said on the company intranet on Facebook ?

55 posted on 07/27/2015 3:26:27 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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We all met at a local Restaurant and had a party that night... nobody NOBODY gave a dime for flowers or attended her funeral.

I take it she was a tyrant?

56 posted on 07/27/2015 3:28:21 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: tbw2

I’ll give you a little free advice: Shut up! Your employer can fire you for your acts, regardless of the topics discussed. Giving advice to others at work is not your job function. Toss in the politically charged environment of today and you are juggling hand grenades.


57 posted on 07/27/2015 3:40:01 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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“Private discussions that come up”

Those don’t exist at work. EVERYTHING you say or do is company business when on company time.


58 posted on 07/27/2015 3:41:05 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: unread

Yes, but did you check the commode? Any lawyers floating around in there?


59 posted on 07/27/2015 3:42:31 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: Lizavetta

No.


60 posted on 07/27/2015 4:01:44 PM PDT by tbw2
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