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Was Donald Trump correct, inartful or something else in his comments about Mexico, illegals?, etc?
7/11/2015 | Laissez-Faire Capitalist

Posted on 07/11/2015 8:17:31 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

And what were my assertions? Only one; that Donald Trump was correct. Mexico does nothing to correct the situation. In fact, they do everything to aid the illegals rather than try to stop them. After all, illegals collect money from the US to support their crimes and the Mexicans don’t have to take care of their own. That’s not counting the money sent to Mexico from the US by illegals who are taking jobs away from AMERICANS!

And don’t get fancy with me. I was probably speaking legalese before you were born.
As far as asking questions is, You INSINUATE and I have a problem with that! You are also asking questions that have no validity in the discussion. We’re not discussing coyotes. We’re discussing what Donald Trump SAID! Nothing more and nothing less. AND facts and figures sustain his words! DEAL with THAT FACT. If you can.


61 posted on 07/11/2015 12:13:14 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I personally think that if he hadn’t said “When Mexico sends its people” and had said that most illegals don’t rape and don’t commit crimes but we have got to seal the border nonetheless, that he wouldn’t be in the mess he is in now.
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Frankly I DON’T THINK he is in a “mess.” It appears that the American people AGREE with Trump.
As far as suggesting that “Most” illegals don’t rape and don’t commit crimes, what is YOUR definition of CRIME? In MY opinion, ANYONE and EVERYONE who breaks the laws of the United States DELIBERATELY is committing a crime and is therefore a criminal. ILLEGAL by its very definition is NOT LEGAL and pretending that breaking a MAJOR LAW of the US which ANY SOVEREIGN COUNTRY POSSESSES...that law to decide who will and who will not be welcomed by that respective country.....is a misnomer and deliberate evasion of the truth. FACT is that ALL ILLEGALS are CRIMINALS. We are SUPPOSED to be a Nation of LAWS.


62 posted on 07/11/2015 12:30:32 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Do you believe that truth is supported by data?

If so, do you believe that Trump believes that the Mexican government is forcibly sending Mexicans, be it men or women, into the United States when he said “When Mexico sends its people...”?

Secondly, should it be “some, I assume, are good people” or “most”?

Third, do you believe that Trump was saying that the Mexican men who rape women who are making their way here are also coming into the United States? If so, do you believe that Trump would have data to support this?

Fourth, what do you believe is the percentage of illegal Mexican men that are actually rapists, be it those who rape women and then those men come into the US illegally, or what percentage of Mexican men are in the U.S. and then rape women once or after they get here?
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Blah Blah Blah! There is only ONE FACT to be observed. ALL persons who have ILLEGALLY ENTERED the USA are CRIMINALS. Anything else is simply diversionary tactic to change the discourse.


63 posted on 07/11/2015 12:33:53 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

You just don’t get it, do you? ALL are CRIMINALS and should be returned to Mexico. If they want to come here they should LEGALLY APPLY AND WAIT THEIR TURNS.

Nit picking apart what Donald Trump said and pretending to be so much more articulate than him is nothing but typical hair splitting by trolls. Stick to the subject, which is ILLEGAL ALIENS! ALL of them are CRIMINALS!


64 posted on 07/11/2015 12:43:48 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

IRRELEVANT! RAPE is not the subject. ILLEGAL ALIENS are the subject. Trump is correct!


65 posted on 07/11/2015 12:47:27 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

nferring the intent doesn’t cut the mustard as no one is a mind reader.

How can Trump know what the guys in the shipyard perceive? Through ESP? And how can they know that he knows?

Is he running for “shipyard president,” “president of the U.S.” or President of the U.S. with words as a baseball bat”?

Inferring the intent DOES cut the mustard! People KNOW what Trump is saying because it is the same thing they are thinking and feeling. All of your other attempted distractions amount to a snowball in August. Liberals and RINOs like to play their superiority role. You are showing yourself to be less than intelligent if you continue to pursue this hog wash..


66 posted on 07/11/2015 12:55:51 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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Bingo! “It was reported years ago that Mexico was deporting it’s poverty to the USA.”

There is no welfare! The mayors from Sonora were complaining to ex-Gov Brewer that they couldn’t take care of returning
Mexican citizens...Mexico doesn’t want them back!


67 posted on 07/11/2015 1:46:06 PM PDT by OregonRancher (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
is the Mexican government literally rounding up bad civilians and forcing them to come to the U.S.

Explain to us your conception of the "wink, wink, nudge, nudge" approach to their people flooding into the U.S. Where are their troops intercepting their people at the border and turning them back?

By allowing this full-scale exodus, they are, in effect, "sending" them up here.

68 posted on 07/11/2015 4:50:10 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate. [URL=http://media.photobucket.com/user/currencyjunkie/me)
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To: amihow; Laissez-faire capitalist
Americans dare not go into those areas anymore unless armed and in groups.

Southern side of I-8 between Casa Grande and Gila Bend Arizona, 80 miles north of the Mexican border. [all photos by Leo W. Banks]

Those areas are strewn with items purcased i Mexico.

Altar Valley, AZ


Diablito Mountain, 5 miles West of I-19, SW of Arivaca Junction.

The trees are hung with the panties of the victims whose stories are well documented by people down here.

Altar Valley, near Three Points.

Skeptisism understadable. You seem to be veering into cynicism or trolling
Akin to the Medieval "How many angels can sit on the head of a pin?"

69 posted on 07/11/2015 5:25:07 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate. [URL=http://media.photobucket.com/user/currencyjunkie/me)
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To: Oatka

Yup. Scene repeated all across border.


70 posted on 07/11/2015 6:22:29 PM PDT by amihow
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Off-duty San Antonio officer killed in head-on collision. Illegals involved? Passengers in other vehicle seen running from scene.

Click here for story.

71 posted on 07/11/2015 8:20:34 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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