Posted on 06/30/2015 7:12:26 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
An overwhelming 96 percent IT professionals said they’re interested in Windows 10, with 60 percent stating that their IT department has already evaluated a preview version, according to a survey conducted by Spiceworks. The survey of over 500 IT professionals said that nearly all respondents expressed at least some interest in Windows 10 – (96 percent), to be exact.
"But based on their patterns of adoption for OSes in general, it’s fair to say that being interested doesn’t necessarily mean they’re booking flights, at least not right away. When we asked IT pros why they typically start using a new OS, more than two-thirds (69 percent) indicated that they do so on an as-needed basis, such as when a current system reaches end of support (EOS)," Spiceworks stated.
About three quarters of respondents plan to adopt Windows 10 for home use within the first year. The two-year business outlook is also bright, with almost three-quarters taking the Windows 10 (for) business flight. What is the differentiating factor that could make more IT pros board Windows 10? Sixty-four percent of IT professionals said they were most interested in the return of the Start button, 55 percent cited the free upgrade from Windows 7 and 8/8.1, and 51 percent referenced enhanced security.
Seventy-nine percent cited hardware/software compatibility as their greatest concern followed by early release bugs (65 percent), user training (59 percent), and lack of third-party support (51 percent), and time required for upgrade process (43 percent).
In addition, the survey showed that businesses typically value OS stability (68 percent) and application compatibility (62 percent) as the main reasons to consider an OS. The latest features and functionality rank much lower on the list (14 percent) of drivers.
According to the survey, 75 percent of IT pros are planning to adopt Windows 10 for business use within the first two years, versus immediately. "Companies may wait it out to see early reports of how Windows 10 performs, or until third-party applications are fully supported on the new OS."
Almost half (48 percent) of survey respondents say having a common OS for both PCs and mobile devices makes them more likely to consider Windows 10.
Even so, only a third (31 percent) say they’d be interested in having Windows 10 for smartphones, compared with those interested in Windows 10 on laptops (85 percent), desktops (83 percent), and tablets (50 percent).
"Aggregated Spiceworks network data backs up the positive outlook for Windows 10. Two years after launch, Windows 7 had a penetration rate of 60 percent and a total market share of 14.4 percent. Based on the survey data presented in this report, Windows 10 is expected to have a penetration rate of 73 percent after two years–and according to our calculations, an expected market share of 17 percent," the survey said.
“I would encourage you to migrate from Vista to Win7 when you can”
Yup. New PC with 7 already on order. I can use my Vista laptop for emergencies, traveling, etc.
That is what I suspect...
LOL, one aspect of my job is supplying information to people for their decisions, and I have found that one can take statistics, and without openly lying, can be deceitful or just wrong.
Sometimes people are unintentionally deceitful.
And sometimes they aren’t!
One of the things I have found is that when I supply data, I have to be on guard not to work the data to a point that it gives people the answer they want.
It is entirely possible to massage the data to the point where it can be completely misleading, and you can often do it without really altering the data.
It is a slippery slope. I try to keep in mind that I often have to be the bearer of bad news, not what they want to hear, even though I could figure out a way to make it more palatable.
Of course, if they ASK me for specific data in a specific way and they are making the decision on how they want to present it, that is a business decision, and it isn’t necessarily unethical.
There are ways to present data that make a situation look better than it is, and we all do it.
“But honey...the average price of this part for the car was $200!”
Even though you only checked two places!
The real world doesn’t run on micromush’s support.
I too have software that needs XP, as well as software that needs real DOS 6.22, so I have machines dedicated to both, and the DOS machine multi-boots to DOS or Win 98SE, so that I can transfer data by USB2.
None of this is going away, because that is how the world of engineering operates.
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No, it wasn't. That was a subordinate clause in my overall statement that I disagreed with the premise that 75% of businesses would migrate to Windows 10 in under 2 years. . . You said they would. Now you are parsing your statement, as you have tried to do in the past.
Go back and look at my first reply to you. I quoted that, and only that statement as the part I took exception to.
You said yourself they don't provide any details about their survey methodology, so we don't know exactly what "penetration" amounts to.
I quoted from the article that they say they found a 60% "penetration rate" for W7 two years after release, so that's not a prediction but a measurement from historical data. It doesn't explain the methodology but it's at least data that can be extrapolated from to evaluate their prediction, and that's what I did.
We don't know exactly what the methodology and metrics are for what they're calling "penetration rate", but we know even less about whatever it is that you're using that says it's "bogus".
Arguing that their calculations for "penetration rate" have to be wrong without even knowing what it is that being measured seems pretty stupid.
LOL, I don’t know about it being “stupid”, but as an IT professional, that declaration seemed COMPLETELY out of line with reality, but I readily admit I generally only see on a large scale one segment of an industry, and the opinions of my friends who also work in different IT sectors in the economy. For example, I have no idea what aerospace industries have on their desktops, not even a sample.
I think what others might be pointing out is that what Spiceworks seem to be saying (or what they strongly “imply” with those statistics) is completely off base.
I don’t think you and I have an argument here. If they think there will be a slightly better penetration rate into business than W7, I could easily buy THAT...:)
Pretty much the same here (I only have direct experience at the one company where I work, and second-hand information from a limited number of others). But my experience has apparently been different than yours. The XP to W7 upgrade was a huge undertaking, but necessitated by security considerations (I work in the financial industry). We started evaluating W7 as soon as the CTP was available, and by the time it went RTM we had a pretty good handle on what it would take in terms of hardware upgrades and had been working with software vendors on compatibility issues. We'd looked at and tested Vista previously and decided that we would not commit to that upgrade, and continued to deploy and use XP. By the time W7 was RTM, we already knew it was a solid candidate for the next upgrade and we were ready for that transition.
Now we're in pretty much the same situation. We've looked at (and rejected) W8/8.1 as being too problematic, and W10 is looking to be a solid candidate for the next systemic upgrade.
Almost all the other Windows admins I talk to tell me the same thing. Still running mostly W7 workstations because everybody hated W8, but have looked at and been impressed by W10.
It is a pain in the nether regions, to say the least.
Not yet. I have been seriously considering taking the machines (I have three without an OS) and going to Linux with a windows emulator. I an not an IT guy, just a Geologist who has learned what little I know of necessity (software and hardware repair). I haven’t had time to work on much in the past couple of years, and have more time to dedicate to the project now.
Win10 sounded fine until I heard it will share your wifi password with everyone online
That's like saying pistols sounded like a good idea until you heard they'll shoot you in the foot.
MS decided that its a good idea for your Facebook friends and everyone else to have access to your wi-fi password.
That is dumb
If I want something to be scattered around the internet, I will put it there. Compulsive (or stealth) dissemination of what is on my computer is a deal-breaker.
They decided it's a good idea to give you a mechanism to share it with them if you want to.
The password sharing is done via a service provided by MS that both you and the person getting the password have to go sign up for.
This "feature" may not make it into the final release, but if that's your reason for not upgrading then you're basically saying it shouldn't be in there because you can't be trusted not to shoot yourself in the foot with it.
Exactly correct. I use VMWare Workstation Professional and have several different XP VM's that I can spin up anytime I want and run them all together. Unfortunately for me, some amateur radio software I rely on never made it past Windows XP. Fortunately, I don't need an internet connection when I use that software so I disable the NIC for those VM's just to keep them safe.
I don't know what regulatory pressure the health care field is specific to the technologies being used. I can speak to Financial Services and can tell you that a 75% penetration in 2 years in Financial Services (Banking, Trust, Hedge Funds, Retail Banking, etc..) just ain't gonna happen. We only got off of Windows XP literally as Microsoft was turning out the lights and closing the doors on it. Windows 7 for us has been in place what .... 3 years now I think?
The only way we're going to move to Windows 10 will be because the Regulators hit us with an audit point and we're required to do it. Which can happen but it's doubtful it would.
We got hit with that audit once. Since then we've made sure that we'll be doing those upgrades on our schedule, not theirs.
Same DEC VAX technology had been retired by damn' near the rest of the world all the way back in 1992/1993!!
One of the reasons the bank I now work for hired me is because I'm an SME (and author) on Technology Lifecycle, which includes all aspects of IT Risk, Business Risk, Regulatory Risk, Brand Reputation and Brand Damage. I actually copyrighted the Technology Lifecycle Process I developed, the evaluation criteria, and how the results are published in a dashboard form so that even Senior Executives can understand it.
So this bank hires me away from another bank, and I present them with my Technology Lifecycle Process complete with evaluation criteria and a guarantee that following my process will result in net savings to the bank. That was on my fourth day of employment.
Bank Senior Management loved it, and gave me six weeks to identify the technologies that needed to go in order to protect the bank from all the different types of damage I described (they were VERY concerned about Brand and Reputational damage, due to this particular bank catering only to the uber-wealthy.) I responded back in 4 weeks (2 weeks early...) with a list of 10 technologies they needed to get rid of to avoid all the categories of risk I outlined for them.
#1 on that list was the DEC VAX cluster that even HP couldn't support anymore, but was costing the bank upwards of $1.7 million a year to run in service contracts, consulting contracts, FTE's, environmental costs such as electric, a/c, data center footprint and other associated costs.
I then showed them how I could retire that DEC VAX in 180 days, including moving all 135 mission critical application components that STILL RAN on that platform and interfaced with other mission critical applications.
In my 30+ year career in IT, I'd never seen any other situation like this.
Several Senior IT Leaders were literally dead set against spending the $1.6 million dollars I said it would cost to retire it. They viewed it as a waste of money.
To convince the more "sane" and "rational" Senior IT Leaders that it was the right thing to do to spend $1.6 million to retire that platform, I went back into their IT budget over the 15 years that thing should've been gone, and calculated the Net Present Value of all the money they spent on service contracts that meant nothing, and consultants who literally baby-sat this thing for the last 15 years and never touched it.
When they saw the Net Present Value of the money they WASTED keeping that platform running, jaws literally dropped and the room was so quiet you could hear a pin drop.
Guess what happened? I retired that system in the 180 days I said I would, came in slightly under budget, and migrated all 135 applications and their components that were running on it off to the bank's existing platforms without buying a single piece of hardware, software, or renewing any of the existing application vendors agreements.
I had the pleasure of shutting the damn' things down in both data centers. Within 24 hours both data centers dropped several degrees and there was a noticeable uptick in available power in both data centers.
Now, what did I get for my efforts? Shunned by those in Senior Management who were betting against me. As it turned out, there had been several efforts to retire the DEC VAX platform before me. All failed. I succeeded. There was an actual betting pool going between our IT and Business Senior Management as to whether or not the DEC VAX could actually be retired.
How did I win enough Senior Management over to retire the platform? Simple. We're a bank. We have Shareholders. We pay annual dividends on our stock. We have a responsibility to run as efficiently and lean as possible to maximize their investment. So when I showed the NPV (Net Present Value) of all the money the bank WASTED over 15 years was in excess of $30,000,000 and then showed them how much modernization that money would've covered, I won enough Senior Management over to do the project.
Thankfully, the Senior Management who said NO to retiring that platform have either left the bank, or moved over to one of our business units. It's the ones that have moved over to our business units that still try and make my life difficult because I proved them wrong, and I proved how much money their stupid decisions actually cost the bank.
One thing is true though: Money talks, bullsh*t walks. Bankers HATE being told they're wasting money.
As I found out well after the project had concluded and the old systems were wheeled out the door, the distinction between me and the people who tried before me to retire that platform came down to one simple thing: NPV. I showed them how much money they wasted and literally shamed them into taking action.
So when I say that the bank I work at isn't going to move to Windows 10 anytime soon, I know what I'm talking about. :-)
Seems like they'd have learned something from that. Are they PCI compliant?
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