Posted on 06/12/2015 8:30:49 PM PDT by MHGinTN
Are you asking for the ecclesiological (the Church and Church Age) explanation or do you somehow have an eschatological (end times) form you’re speaking of?
Eschatological - “approved” watching and waiting for Christ’s return.
Do you not know the answer, or are you testing the poster?
Let redleg answer, I wasn’t speaking to you.
Actually, no, since this thread has gotten quite old, not much interest in it: he doesn’t have to answer, nor you for him. Have a good day. Bye.
Thank you, and you too have a nice day. I’m going to address the issue for those still checking back on this thread. I’ll put it in another post so you won’t get pinged. Don’t want to disturb your day ...
'Speaking of clarifications, how about clarifying what you mean by "approved." Who's approved according to your eschatology?'
Eschatology being the study of end-time things, this is a most interesting question related to the Rapture!
The Rapture is for living people, people who have put their faith in Jesus Christ as Savior and have had the Holy Spirit seal their human soul/spirit with His presence as the earnest of their inheritance to come. Yup, it is for the living. But wait! There's more.
In 1Thessalonians 4:13-17 Paul tells the Thessalonians that they should not worry for their dead, for the Lord is going to do something miraculous for believers, namely raise the dead to living bodies, then transform them, along with 'we who are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord', into bodies fit for eternity. The further clues are found in 1Corinthians 15:51-53. The corruptible must put on incorruption, so even living bodies like 'we who are alive and remain' must also be transformed.
Jesus introduced this notion of the Rapture in the Upper Room Discourse found in John 14. It must have been a puzzling discourse because good old Thomas says 'we don't know where you're going'!
Thomas blurted his question because Jesus had told them that ... "‘Let not your heart be troubled, believe in God, also in me believe; in the house of my Father are many mansions; and if not, I would have told you; I go on to prepare a place for you; and if I go on and prepare for you a place, again do I come, and will receive you unto myself, that where I am ye also may be; and whither I go away ye have known, and the way ye have known.’ Thomas did not have the later revelations regarding the Rapture of the Church, so it is understandable that when Jesus says He is going away to somewhere, to prepare for them a place, where He will come from to get them and take them there, well this was reasoned out in earthy terms. But Jesus didn't leave the confusion there. .... Yes, there's more.
Philip was beginning to catch the clues: 'Philip saith to him, ‘Sir, shew to us the Father, and it is enough for us;’
Jesus then gives Philip a Physics lesson about dimensional abilities being limited by how God made him, but he reassures Philip that if he has seen Jesus he has seen the father, because the Father is in Him and He is in the Father. And with that astonishing teaching, Jesus launches into the further meaning of this relationship He is instituting with the coming Crucifixion and resurrection. Something wonderful is about to happen, to steal a phrase from 2001 A Space Odyssey.
John 14:16-17 I will ask the Father, and another Comforter He will give to you, that he may remain with you — to the age; the Spirit of truth, whom the world is not able to receive, because it doth not behold him, nor know him, and ye know him, because he doth remain with you, and shall be in you.
So, who is 'approved' to be taken out of the way when the restrainer is removed Who is restraining the revealing of the spirit of lawlessness, the antiChrist? [2Thess2:3] Any who have this Holy Spirit seal upon their soul/spirit, placed there BY GOD, because they believe in Jesus as The Lord From Heaven. These sealed ones have done what Jesus told the Sadducees and Pharisees was the 'work' that God requires for salvation.
One other point to ponder regarding this Rapture event: among those taken ‘out of the Way’ are all ‘the innocent’. Those who have believed on Jesus, because God put His seal upon their souls, are innocent before His righteous vision. And the little ones who have yet to rebel against God and reject Him are also innocent. It is a horrible thing to see that ALL children below a certain age or behavior will be suddenly gone from the Earth. Sadly, children will be born upon the earth after this escape ... imagine how horrible it will be that their parents will present them to receive the mark of anti-Christ/Beast.
a false rapture is on the way https://youtu.be/uGaM95MDZsI via @YouTube
Having watched this video (12 minutes), I can only say that the creator of the video makes sense.
Whether he’s right or wrong the important issue isn’t if or when a Rapture takes place, it’s being ready for Christ’s return regardless of Rapture doctrine.
Amen ... and I will now go to the link. Thanks
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What I find most astonishing about the Tribulation period is that some lie will be offered to explain away the astonishing event of the Rapture, and people will believe The Lie! Also, think about what level of delusion must be upon the earth that the armies of the world will actually believe they can make war against God, physically! I mean, make war against the creator of the Universe, the creator of them?
The creator of the video makes more than one error in portraying the Rapture and the Second Coming of Jesus. The creator of the video assumes axiomatic that which he is trying to convince us is correct, so he has a poor grasp of what the Bible actually states concerning believers, the restrainer, the taking out of the restrainer, the number so great no man could number it who are saved during the Tribulation (the Tribulation Saints), and the return of Jesus as a warrior who is seen by His friends with blood on Him from riding through the mass of army arrayed against Israel. And finally Jesus descending to the top of the Mount of Olives as King to establish His millennial kingdom for 1000 years. Sorry, the video has lots of errors in it.
Without a dispensational perspective it is hard to make heads or tails of much of end-times Bible prophecy. It also allows foolishness like ‘replacement theology’ which claims Israel has been replaced by the Church and the Church Age. To clear up such errors as that requires a better way to organize your thoughts when studying the Revelation of John. Dispensational perspective gives that organization to the reasoning. It also allows the student/Berean to see that even the Church Age is foreshadowed in the Levitical feasts plan.
Paul referred to ‘the Last Trump’ of the feast of trumpets. This feast was the first of the three Fall feasts. The next Feast is Yom Kippur, then the Feast of Tabernacles. The Feast of Tabernacles will take place in the Lord Millenial Kingdom.
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