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Christian PR Expert Says Josh Duggar's Apology Is Not Enough to Satisfy Sexual Molestation Scandal
christianpost.com ^ | May 28, 2015 | Sami K. Martin

Posted on 05/29/2015 12:44:38 PM PDT by Morgana

Josh Duggar, Executive Director of the Family Research Council Action in Ames, Iowa August 9, 2014.

Hunter Frederick, a Christian public relations expert once rumored to have been hired to help manage the fallout from the sexual abuse allegations surrounding Josh Duggar, star of "19 Kids and Counting," by the Duggar family, says the recent apology from the embattled Christian figure and his parents is not enough to sate the effects of the scandal that has engulfed the family.

"I have no reason to think their apology wasn't sincere, but an apology is one small thing that needs to happen in this very large problem," Frederick told The Christian Post on Thursday.

" The majority of people that are against the Duggars want some kind of legal punishment, which can't happen because of our country's statute of limitations law. That's why this whole thing is very sticky from a crisis management standpoint. He (Josh) has to pay his debt to society back in some form or fashion. Most of the time that's legal action, so how does that happen when he can't be prosecuted?" added Frederick, who is president of Frederick & Associates.

Josh is accused of molesting five young women when he was 14, but nothing ever came of it because the three year statute of limitations passed. His parents, Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar, as punishment, however, sent him to the Institute in Basic Life Principles which "was established for the purpose of introducing people to the Lord Jesus Christ, and ... training on how to find success by following God's principles found in Scripture," according to the organization's website.

(Excerpt) Read more at christianpost.com ...


TOPICS: Religion; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: apology; duggar; perverts; sexabuse
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1 posted on 05/29/2015 12:44:38 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

“once rumored to have been hired”

Snazzy reportage, that.


2 posted on 05/29/2015 12:53:06 PM PDT by sparklite2
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To: Morgana

Someone can drop a dozen eggs and say they are sorry, but the eggs stay broken. Just like these poor girls.


3 posted on 05/29/2015 12:56:10 PM PDT by Wisconsinlady (GOP ticks me off worse than the dems)
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To: Wisconsinlady

“Someone can drop a dozen eggs and say they are sorry, but the eggs stay broken. Just like these poor girls.”

Finally...someone here said it. Someone here besides me gets it.


4 posted on 05/29/2015 12:58:25 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana
"I have no reason to think their apology wasn't sincere, but an apology is one small thing that needs to happen in this very large problem," Frederick told The Christian Post on Thursday. "The majority of people that are against the Duggars want some kind of legal punishment, which can't happen because of our country's statute of limitations law. That's why this whole thing is very sticky from a crisis management standpoint. He (Josh) has to pay his debt to society back in some form or fashion. Most of the time that's legal action, so how does that happen when he can't be prosecuted?" added Frederick, who is president of Frederick & Associates.

I noticed that the article doesn't give suggestions as to how how else Duggar should "pay his debt to society", only that "society" is demanding more than he has offered to date. What else can/should he do? The Duggar case reminds me of this failed attempt to modify the laws in Colorado, back in 2008:

Under Colorado's current statute of limitations, Coloradans who suffer abuse have six years after they turn 18 to sue their abusers. Children's advocates say that is not enough time because many victims blame themselves and often hide their abuse for years before reporting it or considering criminal or civil action against their abuser.

In 2006, [Colorado state Rep. Gwyn Green, D-Golden] sponsored a bill that would have allowed victims unlimited time to file future lawsuits against private institutions if those institutions tried to cover up sexual abuse. The Catholic Church felt it was being unfairly singled out. The bill eventually was amended to include public schools and governments. Those groups then joined in opposing the measure. The sponsors let their bill die rather than see it weakened.
-- from the thread Bill would lift limits on child abuse suits


5 posted on 05/29/2015 1:03:53 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Morgana

Does anyone know exactly what happened?


6 posted on 05/29/2015 1:07:47 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Morgana

He should probably leave public life. I don’t see him ever “rehabbing” his image. People aren’t forgiving about diddling children.(nor should they be)


7 posted on 05/29/2015 1:13:50 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Morgana

I’ve wondered about his sisters. I wonder if they got any sort of help. Being violated in this manner sometimes affects people for the rest of their lives. I know they are all deeply religious, and their faith may help them. The Duggars live in such an insular world; we may never know everything that happened. And as this family fades out of the public eye, with their TV show going off the air, we may never hear more details.


8 posted on 05/29/2015 1:22:44 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Morgana

Your aren’t alone, I get it.


9 posted on 05/29/2015 1:23:58 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: nickcarraway

I’ll wait for the book from the victims as I think media is doing more harm than good.


10 posted on 05/29/2015 1:26:18 PM PDT by the_daug
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To: nickcarraway

Child molestation can take many forms. Not sure exactly what he was doing to the girls.


11 posted on 05/29/2015 1:26:26 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Morgana

Absolutely agree.

Also WTF with statute of limitation for 3 years when molesting a child?


12 posted on 05/29/2015 1:30:04 PM PDT by arbitrary.squid
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To: the_daug

Our media is indeed screwed and predatory, but at the same time, sexual abuse of children by family members is all too often swept under the rug and everyone pretends like it just didn’t happen because it’s ugly and they don’t want to deal with it.

I have raised two boys to adulthood, and I have told them from an early age that nobody should ever be touching them in their swimsuit areas, and if they did, to not be shy about reporting it. And also that you don’t ever touch people in their private areas that you aren’t romantically involved with and they have given permission, and are older than age of consent and everything is legal. In other words, don’t ever molest or rape anyone.


13 posted on 05/29/2015 1:34:55 PM PDT by arbitrary.squid
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To: arbitrary.squid; GeronL

“Also WTF with statute of limitation for 3 years when molesting a child?”

Oh that? You may thank Dr. Kinsey for that! He changed all the Rape/molesting laws in the country. He gutted them.

Before Kinsey rapists/childmolesters in America got the death penalty. Now we are lucky if they get 6 to 8 years in jail. Just recently because of outcry we added the sex offender registry but that really does not give peace of mind.


14 posted on 05/29/2015 1:35:21 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

A “Christian public relations” expert? What’s the pay like?


15 posted on 05/29/2015 1:58:32 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Morgana

I think you need to work out why you are obsessed with Josh Duggar and making sure he is punished to satisfy you. Obviously this has stirred up something in your life but you need to recognize that we don’t know 1/2 the story.


16 posted on 05/29/2015 2:15:38 PM PDT by happyhomemaker (Rejoice in hope, be patient in tribulation, be constant in prayer. Rom 12:12)
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To: Morgana
Kinsey changed them, state to state? How did he have that power? Do you have a reference for when these were put into place and why? I ask, because I had assumed that like murder, that there wouldn't be a limitation on sexual abuse of minors. It appears that there is a movement to extend the time that people who were assaulted can bring charges against those who harmed them. This article says that the Catholic church is trying to keep these statutes of limitations from being expanded.
17 posted on 05/29/2015 2:19:48 PM PDT by arbitrary.squid
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To: Morgana
"Before Kinsey rapists/childmolesters in America got the death penalty. " well the Kinsey reports were published in the 1940s. Kennedy v. Louisiana held that the Eighth Amendment's Cruel and Unusual Punishments Clause did not permit a state to punish the crime of rape of a child with the death penalty; more broadly, the power of the state to impose the death penalty against an individual for committing a crime that did not result in the death of the victim is now limited to crimes against the state (e.g. espionage, treason). Yes, it was after Kinsey, but I don't see the relation, as this was a 2008 case. In a similar vein, before the moon landings, child rape was punished by death and now it's not, but it doesn't have anything to do with the moon landings.
18 posted on 05/29/2015 2:37:52 PM PDT by arbitrary.squid
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To: Morgana
How many posts in the last week about the evils of Duggars as opposed to the evils of abortion butchers have you posted?

You really have your priorities straight.

19 posted on 05/29/2015 4:51:41 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Wolfie

He touched their private areas over their clothing. They didn’t know it happened until he apologized to them.


20 posted on 05/29/2015 4:55:16 PM PDT by imskylark
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